Comments Thread For: Marquez Says He Won't Be Provodnikov's Stepping Stone

[JmH Reborn]

Can we please get the JMM - Likar Ramos rematch popping, lots of unfinished business with that fixed fight and all. I know Likar will bring the pain

[mathed]

If you scared, just say you're scared.

[Foreign Soil]

Are you kidding me? I can deal with an opinion other than my own mate, what I find utterly laughable and absurd, pitiful actually, is when a boxing scene mob jump on the bandwagon, spout the same post tirelessly and repetitively without thought, against every single shred of evidence to the contrary.

Marquez moved up two divisions to fight the hardest fighter in the sport (not just in this era, but one of the hardest in boxing's long history) to fight at 36. He lost, moved back down and then when Manny was on his worst rampage and still considered the number 1 guy in the sport, again, he jumped up two divisions at 38 to fight him and did everything but get the decision while everyone and his dog said beforehand he was going to be utterly annihilated in one round.

Yet here come along a bunch of morons that can't get their minds past a week ago, all thinking that because he doesn't want to fight some brand new champion with one title fight win (funnily enough, the same title that Marquez vacated to chase bigger and harder fights) in a division he's already won a title in, he's ducking and scared because he wants to make history by winning a 5th divisional title?

That's as absurd as accusing Holyfield of being scared of any of the young, new guys in heavyweight boxing. That's as moronic as saying "Roy Jones don't want none of Stevenson. He scurrrred dawgggg". Let's go a bit further and start accusing Hopkins of being scared of Kovalev. That would surely make sense considering Hopkins' past right?

He only just fought the best young champion in the 140/147 division in Tim Bradley, who holds a win over the guy you're accusing Marquez of being scared of.

I'm actually embarrassed for you guys that can come to that conclusion. I'm surprised you know where the on switch is to your computer to post this ****e. That's how thick that train of thought is.

Your analogy to Holyfield is horrible - so is the one to RJJ. The Hopkins one finally makes a bit more sense but not quite. The fact is, people are tired of Marquez' whining, sorry if that upsets you, but it's the simple truth. I used to be a Marquez fan, but I actually started losing respect when he didn't respect the game and showed up soft against Mayweather, being so arrogant as to give into Mayweather's weight demands for a bonus fee and utterly looking like **** on fight night. Then comes one of the most *****iest moves of all and completely blocks Maidana from being able to train with Nacho - that right there lost me as a fan completely. Marquez finally bloomed into a full-time diva and that's where he stands today. Won't admit he lost to Bradley - whining like hell again and cherry picking opponents - two things that obviously don't go down well in this sport and the proof is in the pudding. Many people, who were once his fans, simply don't care about him anymore.

[Weebler I]

That's as absurd as accusing Holyfield of being scared of any of the young, new guys in heavyweight boxing. That's as moronic as saying "Roy Jones don't want none of Stevenson. He scurrrred dawgggg". Let's go a bit further and start accusing Hopkins of being scared of Kovalev. That would surely make sense considering Hopkins' past right?

He only just fought the best young champion in the 140/147 division in Tim Bradley, who holds a win over the guy you're accusing Marquez of being scared of.

Marquez is still relevant, those guys aren't. Horrible examples. No point using Marquez's age as an excuse either, the guy is WWE'd up and competitively probably has the biological age of someone in their late-20s.

Using Tim saying he has a win over Provo isn't kosher either, a blind man can see Provodnikov hits 10x harder, and Tim himself almost dropped Marquez late.

Tired hearing of Marquez to be honest, he has tarnished his career first with Memo, then his whining and now his avoiding fighters. He should just retire.

Bob should hurry up and make Provo-Rios.

[MRBOOMER]

Super Katsidis? O I get it, you mean like Super Cotto who gave Mayweather problems.

No I meant similar in style and not as shopworn against an even older Marquez if your gonna be a sarcastic jackass at least make sure the **** you say is funny

[john_uphold]

Try explaining that to Money May, your fav fighter at the top of your fav fighters list. Who came up with to be the best you have to fight the best. Yet he won't fight old easy Pac-Man. Brutal sport? Mayweather:My health comes first.

Mayweather? Why even bring up his name, there is no need to explain this guys career it speaks for itself. Your not going to agree that boxing is a brutal sport by quoting Mayweather? He thought Manny was on Peds, whatever. Every boxer should fight the best, and he has. Manny should still have his fight with Mayweather no doubt, but he fell short and is not on the same level as Floyd in my opinion. He'll fight Pac and win, I have no doubt, and this isn't because im a fan, it is obvious in his skills. Pac would try to box Floyd, he's not going to smother Floyd, and damn sure will not knock him out. I dont see Pac winning that fight.

Lets not forget, Pac's sworn enemy is the guy Mayweather had a breeze fighting. Ridiculously lopsided fight.

[BennyST]

If you scared, just say you're scared.

Marquez is still relevant, those guys aren't. Horrible examples. No point using Marquez's age as an excuse either, the guy is WWE'd up and competitively probably has the biological age of someone in their late-20s.

Using Tim saying he has a win over Provo isn't kosher either, a blind man can see Provodnikov hits 10x harder, and Tim himself almost dropped Marquez late.

Tired hearing of Marquez to be honest, he has tarnished his career first with Memo, then his whining and now his avoiding fighters. He should just retire.

Bob should hurry up and make Provo-Rios.

He's now tarnished his whole career because of avoiding fighters? Mate, that type of ******ity takes diligent practice. Clearly you've got some natural talent to go along with it.

There's really nothing you can say to this. I guess it's just that clear. He should just come out and admit that he's scared. If they're horrible examples, there's plenty more around to show why it's a moronically ****** thought process. Old HOF fighter wanting to finish his career with one special, history making fight taking on a guy with no fanfare who holds his old vacated belt.....yeah, that happens all the time and makes perfect sense. It's just the logical step. You'd think wanting to choose the last fight of his career, he'd go for something special, rather than just win back his old vacated title against a new guy in a old division he's already won in. I guess that makes him scared and tarnishes his whole career.

I guess when you've been fighting as an elite fighter for two decades and taken on the best in five divisions, and been an underdog against the best fighters P4P in the sport time and time again, you get scared to fight for a title that you've already won rather than take the easy route and try to make history as the first Mexican to ever win 5 titles.

I guess that some fighters, after fighting the best in each division they've been in, showing more heart in one fight than most do in their whole career, just get suddenly terrified of doing something they've already done.

What I'm confused about is that Marquez' intentions have been clear as day all along, well before Provodnikov won Marquez' vacated title, and that was to win a 5th division title or retire. Apart from an article or two linking them to what might be a good fight, they haven't even been on any type of collision course and really aren't even closely linked to anything together.

New champions with little fanfare rarely fight old champions looking to end their career with one last big, special marquee fight. They fight in different divisions, and really have no link apart from both being at TR. Pac and Prov have been linked more than Marquez and him have, but you don't see morons saying "Pacs totally scared bro". If Marquez was 30 and had years in front of him, I'd get this, but he's 41 and looking for one last, history making fight. You really think winning his own vacated title in a division he's not going to fight at anymore fits that bill?



This is NSB I guess. Really shouldn't be expecting more. Where fighters are HOF legends one minute, then scared duckers, tarnishing their whole 20 year, 60 fight career by supposedly avoiding one fight that makes no sense anyway the next. Where a fighter can literally be on top of the world one fight, then a complete bum that can't beat **** the next.

[2120]

Other than pacquiao, and a past prime Barrera, JMM's resume is not that great. The man drank his own piss for 5 or 6 straight fights. The man whines after every close fight. The man in the last 3 or 4 years has ducked Khan, Rios, and Provo.

He also ducked Morales in 2006. Marquez turned down a career high payday of 1.5 million and was asking for 3.5 million. lol.

people need to stop with this Marquez ducked Morales nonsense

from Erik Morales mouth himself
“I’ve been hearing in the news that Juan Manuel Marquez is interest in a rematch with Pacquiao, I don’t blame him. There were times I pushed back facing him when I had better proposals,” said Morales

ig h t n e w s.com/Boxing/erik-morales-update-4-68902

[Scary]

Marquez is still relevant, those guys aren't. Horrible examples. No point using Marquez's age as an excuse either, the guy is WWE'd up and competitively probably has the biological age of someone in their late-20s.

Using Tim saying he has a win over Provo isn't kosher either, a blind man can see Provodnikov hits 10x harder, and Tim himself almost dropped Marquez late.

Tired hearing of Marquez to be honest, he has tarnished his career first with Memo, then his whining and now his avoiding fighters. He should just retire.

Bob should hurry up and make Provo-Rios.

I agree, his big win over Pacquiao made him more arrogant than he already was, now he is basically ducking two fights, both Pac and Provodnikov. Wouldn't mind him retiring, he seems worn out.

[2120]

Prince made Marquez wait for 2 years. Marquez was low profile back then and his style wasn't that fan friendly. (Marquez adapted later on to mix in more offence) When the time came, Prince offered Marquez a career high payday of $400,000. JMM and his team turned it down.

Marquez was the prince mandatory for 2 years and in the span lesser fighters than Marquez fought the prince and the only time they

offered Marquez a fight was on short notice! Marquez is your mando for 2 years and you offer him a fight on short notice and you think that gives the prince a pass for choosing not fight Marquez???

Then you had Emmanuel Stewart that openly said many times that they ducked Marquez

so STFU