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    #31
    Originally posted by jas View Post
    The Ring Doctor was worried that Alexander's eye was paralyzed.

    "He literally couldn't open his eye. It was more than a cut. I was worried it was his nerve and that his eye was paralyzed," said Dr. Pete Samet


    That's why both eyes were open five seconds after the fight was stopped. It burned doe.

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      #32
      Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post


      That's why both eyes were open five seconds after the fight was stopped. It burned doe.
      Devon was still legit as they come, instead of fighting Devon, other fighters fought lesser opponents.

      Devon all around is a solid good fighter.

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        #33
        Peterson, Abregu and Alexander - all undefeated fighters when Tim fought them. Peterson is now a 140-pound titleholder who beat Bradley's old press rival Khan, Abregu has not lost since losing to Bradley and is now in position to challenge for a title soon, and Alexander went on to win a welterweight title himself before losing it to Shawn Porter. All three of these fights were wide. If you want to see exactly what Tim can do, watch him dance circles around Lamont Peterson. It's an exhibition of skill as Tim alternately pressures and outboxes Peterson, showing excellent movement and activity.

        Provodnikov may not have been the biggest of names when Tim fought him, but he then went on to clear out Mike Alvarado. Mile High Mike had only lost to Rios and it was one that he avenged. Now Provodnikov is himself a world titlist.

        The quality of a fighter's record is in both who fighters were when a guy fights them, and what they went on to do with the rest of their careers. Miguel Vazquez Jr. is considered one of the best lightweights in the world, and Tim Bradley already beat him.

        Before he fought Pacquiao, Tim was already a very accomplished fighter. If he clearly can win against Pacquiao in the rematch I think people will start to credit Tim as one of the best fighters in this generation.

        I really can't wait for the rematch. I'm really curious about the styles these fighters show up with. Manny needs to be more active than he was in the first fight; he took huge swaths of rounds off and let Bradley outwork him. Tim relies on movement and we'll see a lot more of it as he shouldn't be fighting on sprained ankles this time around. I hope we see the same Manny that showed up against Juan Manuel Marquez IV; if he has the killer instinct left in him then we could be in for a real war.

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          #34
          I'm among the very few who don't think that Bradley lost to Manny.
          Excuses...

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            #35
            Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post


            That's why both eyes were open five seconds after the fight was stopped. It burned doe.
            burning mannnnnnn!

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              #36
              Richard Dwyer on Timothy "The Desert Storm" Bradley:

              "In the 1980s, in a different sport, basketball, Irvine 'Magic' Johnson started getting double figures in rebounds and assists and points in the same game. So they coined a term for it; the term didn't exist before. They started calling it the 'triple-double.' So then somebody went back in history, because at the time people were saying 'Wow, triple-double, what a dominant player!' So some writer went back in history and thought, 'Has anyone ever gotten a lot of triple-doubles before in NBA history?'

              And that writer then stumbled onto the fact that a basketball player named Oscar Robertson had gone through an entire year in which he AVERAGED a triple-double. It was only then that people understood, with the invention of the triple-double statistic, just how dominant Oscar Robertson was. We loved him before then; after that fact we understood who he was.

              Now with Timothy Bradley, I'm not sure if I've ever encountered a boxer who has had more of a stealth Hall-of-Fame career. This guy beats Devon Alexander when Devon Alexander was unbeaten. Since the Manny Pacquiao fight, this guy has beaten Ruslan Provodnikov, and has beaten Juan Manuel Marquez. Think about it, as we talk about fighters dodging other fighters, major fights not happening and stuff like this. If we're going to be honest about it and ask ourselves 'Whose era is this?', understand the Bradley case.

              He fought Pacquiao. He beat Pacquiao officially, right? I believe even unofficially he beat Pacquiao. He fought Marquez, he beat Marquez. He fought prime champion Devon Alexander. He beat Devon Alexander. Even fighters who we think are big threats right now, Ruslan Provodnikov, he beat Ruslan Provodnikov. At a minimum concede that he's been fighting championship-level opponents, then exhale and realize that he's still unbeaten."

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                #37
                Originally posted by The Ninth Layer View Post
                Richard Dwyer on Timothy "The Desert Storm" Bradley:

                "In the 1980s, in a different sport, basketball, Irvine 'Magic' Johnson started getting double figures in rebounds and assists and points in the same game. So they coined a term for it; the term didn't exist before. They started calling it the 'triple-double.' So then somebody went back in history, because at the time people were saying 'Wow, triple-double, what a dominant player!' So some writer went back in history and thought, 'Has anyone ever gotten a lot of triple-doubles before in NBA history?'

                And that writer then stumbled onto the fact that a basketball player named Oscar Robertson had gone through an entire year in which he AVERAGED a triple-double. It was only then that people understood, with the invention of the triple-double statistic, just how dominant Oscar Robertson was. We loved him before then; after that fact we understood who he was.

                Now with Timothy Bradley, I'm not sure if I've ever encountered a boxer who has had more of a stealth Hall-of-Fame career. This guy beats Devon Alexander when Devon Alexander was unbeaten. Since the Manny Pacquiao fight, this guy has beaten Ruslan Provodnikov, and has beaten Juan Manuel Marquez. Think about it, as we talk about fighters dodging other fighters, major fights not happening and stuff like this. If we're going to be honest about it and ask ourselves 'Whose era is this?', understand the Bradley case.

                He fought Pacquiao. He beat Pacquiao officially, right? I believe even unofficially he beat Pacquiao. He fought Marquez, he beat Marquez. He fought prime champion Devon Alexander. He beat Devon Alexander. Even fighters who we think are big threats right now, Ruslan Provodnikov, he beat Ruslan Provodnikov. At a minimum concede that he's been fighting championship-level opponents, then exhale and realize that he's still unbeaten."


                Dwyer is fun to watch as usual.
                I never understood why he is recording his videos into the mirror...

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                  #38
                  Bradley is a hard worker in the ring and doesn't deserve MOST of the hate he gets for "beating" Manny. Blame the judges, but at least they went and made the second fight to settle it so they can both move on with their careers or Manny's could end that night.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The Ninth Layer View Post
                    Richard Dwyer on Timothy "The Desert Storm" Bradley:

                    "In the 1980s, in a different sport, basketball, Irvine 'Magic' Johnson started getting double figures in rebounds and assists and points in the same game. So they coined a term for it; the term didn't exist before. They started calling it the 'triple-double.' So then somebody went back in history, because at the time people were saying 'Wow, triple-double, what a dominant player!' So some writer went back in history and thought, 'Has anyone ever gotten a lot of triple-doubles before in NBA history?'

                    And that writer then stumbled onto the fact that a basketball player named Oscar Robertson had gone through an entire year in which he AVERAGED a triple-double. It was only then that people understood, with the invention of the triple-double statistic, just how dominant Oscar Robertson was. We loved him before then; after that fact we understood who he was.

                    Now with Timothy Bradley, I'm not sure if I've ever encountered a boxer who has had more of a stealth Hall-of-Fame career. This guy beats Devon Alexander when Devon Alexander was unbeaten. Since the Manny Pacquiao fight, this guy has beaten Ruslan Provodnikov, and has beaten Juan Manuel Marquez. Think about it, as we talk about fighters dodging other fighters, major fights not happening and stuff like this. If we're going to be honest about it and ask ourselves 'Whose era is this?', understand the Bradley case.

                    He fought Pacquiao. He beat Pacquiao officially, right? I believe even unofficially he beat Pacquiao. He fought Marquez, he beat Marquez. He fought prime champion Devon Alexander. He beat Devon Alexander. Even fighters who we think are big threats right now, Ruslan Provodnikov, he beat Ruslan Provodnikov. At a minimum concede that he's been fighting championship-level opponents, then exhale and realize that he's still unbeaten."
                    Bradley isn't anything close to comparable to Oscar Robertson or Magic Johnson. That's a horrible argument.

                    Skimming over the Pacquiao fight as "officially" a win is ******. 99% of the people who watched that fight know he didn't win, and in boxing that matters more than the ******/corrupt judges. Boxing is a unique sport in that robberies in big fights are fully acknowledged and rarely benefited from.

                    And Ruslan was a cherry pick gone wrong. It has ended up being a much better win, but Bradley didn't take that fight thinking he was tackling some huge threat. It was a tuneup.

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                      #40
                      u forgot junior witter, lamont Peterson and Miguel Vasquez. He is P4P top 5 IMO.

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