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    #91
    This situation is absurd. The so called "accountant" hired by one of the highest earning athletes (Not richest....highest earning) does not even have the basic qualifications of an accountant.

    If you read some of the articles the absurdity is compounded. There is supposed to be transparency and fidiciary responsabilities to the client. This gentleman who worked for Arum, the first red flag, was not at all transparent and had virtually no fidiciary allegiance to Manny, rather his allegiance was to Arum.

    The auditors, people hired by Manny were then called on the carpet...keeping in mind the potential amount of financial resources involved another independent audit could have been done to confirm and verify information from the first people.

    Regarding the IRS and other tax agencies....I would not assume that this is a case of Manny trying to dodge. This has all the characteristics of a set up. Arum probably wants Manny beholden to him and this is a great way to guarantee Manny will have to work with Arum. The IRS is not a random objective organization. It is designed to take people out. Thats essentially what it does. You owe taxes you can go to prison. You can be shut down in a day, all your potential to earn taken away with a court order...this is not the activities of a COLLECTION AGENCY people!! Think ok?

    The idiots here that think the IRS is fair and even handed and impartial need to understand that there is virtually no legal precedents for most IRS activities. Furthermore the agency is designed so that the right people can avoid paying taxes very easily. Why is it that tax sheltering does not exist for people that earn a large income? but...for a rich person that has trusts, life insurance policies and businesses virtually no taxes are paid? why is it that our money goes to subsidize minimum wage workers who need government benefitts, yet these corporations are given business tax breaks?

    I only mention this because some of you are assuming Manny is guilty when
    it is a fact the IRS has destroyed people's lives when the very legal foundations of taxing an income are heresay....think about it and stop being sheeple. Manny may be guilty, he may not be, but chances are he was set up to take a fall. Unless one believes Arum, a Harvard Lawyer never learned about fidicuary responsability.

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      #92
      They first deny the allegations, then Koncz says there is a dispute, they're all liars. Why is Arum taking 30% to pay taxes?! The higher wage earners in America are in the same tax bracket as a teacher, which is not 30%. If Manny's handlers think he can deduct the air travel for his massive entourage, they are seriously misinformed, Manny is not a corporation. Not to mention Bob Arum "is supposedly paying his taxes", Arum would be the person responsible for those deductions. Arum is stealing Manny's money and Manny is a fool to believe his PROMOTER is looking out for his best interest.

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        #93
        Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
        This situation is absurd. The so called "accountant" hired by one of the highest earning athletes (Not richest....highest earning) does not even have the basic qualifications of an accountant.

        If you read some of the articles the absurdity is compounded. There is supposed to be transparency and fidiciary responsabilities to the client. This gentleman who worked for Arum, the first red flag, was not at all transparent and had virtually no fidiciary allegiance to Manny, rather his allegiance was to Arum.

        The auditors, people hired by Manny were then called on the carpet...keeping in mind the potential amount of financial resources involved another independent audit could have been done to confirm and verify information from the first people.

        Regarding the IRS and other tax agencies....I would not assume that this is a case of Manny trying to dodge. This has all the characteristics of a set up. Arum probably wants Manny beholden to him and this is a great way to guarantee Manny will have to work with Arum. The IRS is not a random objective organization. It is designed to take people out. Thats essentially what it does. You owe taxes you can go to prison. You can be shut down in a day, all your potential to earn taken away with a court order...this is not the activities of a COLLECTION AGENCY people!! Think ok?

        The idiots here that think the IRS is fair and even handed and impartial need to understand that there is virtually no legal precedents for most IRS activities. Furthermore the agency is designed so that the right people can avoid paying taxes very easily. Why is it that tax sheltering does not exist for people that earn a large income? but...for a rich person that has trusts, life insurance policies and businesses virtually no taxes are paid? why is it that our money goes to subsidize minimum wage workers who need government benefitts, yet these corporations are given business tax breaks?

        I only mention this because some of you are assuming Manny is guilty when
        it is a fact the IRS has destroyed people's lives when the very legal foundations of taxing an income are heresay....think about it and stop being sheeple. Manny may be guilty, he may not be, but chances are he was set up to take a fall. Unless one believes Arum, a Harvard Lawyer never learned about fidicuary responsability.
        YAWN you think the IRS gives a crap THEY DONT its all about power to bad for Pac looks like they got him

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          #94
          Originally posted by the secret View Post
          They first deny the allegations, then Koncz says there is a dispute, they're all liars. Why is Arum taking 30% to pay taxes?! The higher wage earners in America are in the same tax bracket as a teacher, which is not 30%. If Manny's handlers think he can deduct the air travel for his massive entourage, they are seriously misinformed, Manny is not a corporation. Not to mention Bob Arum "is supposedly paying his taxes", Arum would be the person responsible for those deductions. Arum is stealing Manny's money and Manny is a fool to believe his PROMOTER is looking out for his best interest.
          Athletes pay 30% on their earnings from athletic events. The promoter is required by law to withhold 30% for non-USA residents. That 30% is then paid to the IRS the following day as far as I know.

          The issue here could be with PPV money. Or it could be with less than the 30% having been paid because of deductibles that the IRS don't approve of.

          No way of knowing any of this without a lot more information than is currently available.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
            Athletes pay 30% on their earnings from athletic events. The promoter is required by law to withhold 30% for non-USA residents. That 30% is then paid to the IRS the following day as far as I know.

            The issue here could be with PPV money. Or it could be with less than the 30% having been paid because of deductibles that the IRS don't approve of.

            No way of knowing any of this without a lot more information than is currently available.
            Pac and all athletes dont pay taxes until the end of the year. This is so all income can be accounted for. Including salary and endorsements and camps. After all the write offs and exemptions there is no way he is paying 30%. The problem is they had to find a way to cover up all the money they stole from pac. Arum put that 30% in an interest bearing account and made even more off pacs back. Arum was suppose to show the brs in the Philippines the evidence of how much pac paid the irs but still hasn't. People are confusing what regular people pay vs what rich people pay. Remember during the presidential debate mitt romney revealed he paid 15% taxes on his massive income. The average joe pays 28% the poor pay very little as they get most of tneir taxes back. They need a forensic accountant to find out what bob did with pacs dough.

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              #96
              Where are you getting 30%? The wealthy use so many loopholes it's difficult to keep up. Not to mention, there isn't any flat tax. To put it simply, Arum ripped Manny off, BIG TIME!

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                #97
                Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
                Pac and all athletes dont pay taxes until the end of the year. This is so all income can be accounted for. Including salary and endorsements and camps. After all the write offs and exemptions there is no way he is paying 30%. The problem is they had to find a way to cover up all the money they stole from pac. Arum put that 30% in an interest bearing account and made even more off pacs back. Arum was suppose to show the brs in the Philippines the evidence of how much pac paid the irs but still hasn't. People are confusing what regular people pay vs what rich people pay. Remember during the presidential debate mitt romney revealed he paid 15% taxes on his massive income. The average joe pays 28% the poor pay very little as they get most of tneir taxes back. They need a forensic accountant to find out what bob did with pacs dough.
                If the promoter is required by law to pay 30% into a tax account, isn't the promoter required to show that they made the required payments into that account?

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by techliam View Post
                  In that case, i'm just gonna leave the thread lol. We're just going to find Pro-Floyd posters and Pro-Pac posters going on and on, as again there's no solid proof of anything.
                  As time passes, more things come out...

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                    As time passes, more things come out...

                    Damn Pacquiao getting bent over.

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