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    Originally posted by richardt View Post
    My solution would have been to have 3 accountants hired and have them analyze all of Pac's and Mayweather's revenue and then split it based on that, rather than Arum, Floyd, or Pac determining the amount each side gets. My guess would be that it would have been 60% for Floyd, 40% for Pac or slightly more than that for Floyd and then both sides would have had to agree because Accountants did the math and that is something they know far better than Promoters or fighters know.
    That would make everything alot easier.

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      Originally posted by richardt View Post
      My solution would have been to have 3 accountants hired and have them analyze all of Pac's and Mayweather's revenue and then split it based on that, rather than Arum, Floyd, or Pac determining the amount each side gets. My guess would be that it would have been 60% for Floyd, 40% for Pac or slightly more than that for Floyd and then both sides would have had to agree because Accountants did the math and that is something they know far better than Promoters or fighters know.
      This would be cool but it wouldnt be agreed upon by team pac. Do you remember the vision quest fiasco. I think it was vision quest

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        Originally posted by Sugar Booger View Post
        you're living in denial about the money and pac's loss to Bradley
        Produce the article where Pac turns down the money then. Links or you are full of crap. You do know his promoter has a say-so regarding money, right? And Pac did not lose to Bradley. Boxrec shows one thing just like it fails to show that Lewis clearly beat Holyfield in fight one only to get a draw when everyone know Lewis beat Holyfield.
        Last edited by richardt; 11-12-2013, 02:01 PM.

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          Originally posted by Fetta View Post
          This would be cool but it wouldnt be agreed upon by team pac. Do you remember the vision quest fiasco. I think it was vision quest
          If this was a plausible suggestion to both sides and one side declined and lets say that was Arum, it would expose Arum even more for blocking the fight based on his greed. Arum and Pac only deserve what their side can generate and over the last few years I suspect it is a decent amount less than Floyd.
          Last edited by richardt; 11-12-2013, 02:04 PM.

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            Originally posted by richardt View Post
            Again, the fact is there are many scenarios that can produce any number of results based on being asked for something, demanded, or accused. This is how social psychology works. I was NOT wrong in my analysis that one of the more likely scenarios is that Pac took the situation personally which is more of a child-like response as opposed to a cooler, collected approach. Or an approach of vindication. I originally said "And if all board members interviewing you first accused you of doing PEDS, you would not want to work for them". Maybe YOU would act differently or MAYBE NOT. You wouldn't know till you are in that situation and all the nuances of the time. So consider the "You" as in anyone then.
            Respectfully, you are giving manny way too much credit. He made a business decision when he decided not to take the fight. I'm sure Bob laid out a business plan that showed how much he could make without taking this fight.

            EGo was definitely a huge issue, but it all comes back to money.

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              Originally posted by richardt View Post
              Produce the article where Pac turns down the money then. Links or you are full of crap. You do know his promoter has a say-so regarding money, right? And Pac did not lose to Bradley. Boxrec shows one thing just like it fails to show that Lewis clearly beat Holyfield in fight one only to get a draw when everyone know Lewis beat Holyfield.
              He lost, move on with your life.

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                Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                Respectfully, you are giving manny way too much credit. He made a business decision when he decided not to take the fight. I'm sure Bob laid out a business plan that showed how much he could make without taking this fight. EGo was definitely a huge issue, but it all comes back to money.
                Ego is a huge part of it. If a fighter is something of a Prima Donna, it becomes even more personal and as long as a fighter can survive without the other guy, he is less inclined to put his ego or feelings aside.

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                  Originally posted by Sugar Booger View Post
                  He lost, move on with your life.
                  No he did not, everyone knows Lewis and Pac won those fights. Now produce the article that shows Pac declined Floyd's offer or log out.

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                    Originally posted by richardt View Post
                    If this was a plausible suggestion to both sides and one side declined and lets say that was Arum, it would expose Arum even more for blocking the fight based on his greed. Arum and Pac only deserve what their side can generate and over the last few years I suspect it is a decent amount less than Floyd.
                    I honestly dont see how its not viewed like that now.

                    No cause we go back to the phone call, which was the last time, and team pac not even trying. Floyd at least called him. Bogus offer yes but it was beginning. Ball was in Pac court and he left it there and walked again

                    In the ring after the JMM robbery Pac said "May 5th lets go" and then Arum came in and that tune changed to his usual whatever my promoter wants and Arum talking about JMM again.

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                      Originally posted by Fetta View Post
                      I honestly dont see how its not viewed like that now.

                      No cause we go back to the phone call, which was the last time, and team pac not even trying. Floyd at least called him. Bogus offer yes but it was beginning. Ball was in Pac court and he left it there and walked again
                      You mean ARUM walked. Pac wanted the fight and Floyd did too and Arum jumped in again. So when people say Pac declined Floyd's offer, that is not correct. And this is why I despise Arum greatly, one of the many reasons.
                      Last edited by richardt; 11-12-2013, 02:15 PM.

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