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is there anyway floyd could have beaten leonard?

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    #81
    Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon View Post
    He is widely regarded as the greatest lightweight of all time and routinely ranked in the top 10 of all time.

    You may need to consider following a different sport.
    Duran is widely rated as being one of the top THREE lightweights of all time. The other two are Benny Leonard and Joe Gans. There are a few others who are mentioned sometimes but there is almost universal agreement on these three.

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      #82
      Its SRL,,,,

      He was better than floyd,,, I think it would look alot like when SRL beat benitez, wilfredo was a very good defensive fighter just like floyd,, but i think SRL would eventually walk floyd down,, Floyd wouldnt get ko'd or blown out of the water,, but he would lose a competitive decision,,

      I just dont see any plausible scenario where floyd would beat SRL,, Prime floyd had a tough time with an old oscar and cotto, and those guys are leagues below a prime SRL,,,

      Yes floyd has a high boxing IQ, and yes he has all the tools in his arsenal, its just that SRL would do whatever it took to win, ala his fights vs benetiz, hearns, hagler, duran, Ayuble, etc

      Floyd a top 25 ATG but SRL is a top 10 ATG,,,, I just dont see how floyd could beat SRL

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        #83
        Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
        The Leonard that fought Hearns was the best Leonard I ever saw. I never thought he was quite as good before or after that fight although he fought very well many times. I favor that Leonard to beat Floyd. Floyd was very sharp in his last fight at age 36.Floyd would beat Leonard if Leonard was even a bit off his best which he sometimes was.One thing I have no doubt about is that the 36 year old Floyd destroys the 36 year old Leonard. Leonard did not age well and Floyd seems to be almost as good as ever.Leonard was 34 I think, when he lost every round to Terry Norris.
        You're not giving much credit to Terry Norris..... And Leonard could no longer be out of the ring for a few years and make successful comebacks. He was nearly 36.

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          #84
          Originally posted by edgarg View Post
          You're not giving much credit to Terry Norris..... And Leonard could no longer be out of the ring for a few years and make successful comebacks. He was nearly 36.
          and the fact that terry norris was a damn good fighter, if he was around today at 154 he would be ko'ing canelo, vanes, angulo, and beat lara, molina,,

          terry norris was around today, he would be a p4p guy and most likely would be a huge fight for floyd

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            #85
            Leonard resume is better than Floyds but that doesn't mean Leonard could have beating Floyd...Floyd Sr took that fight with Leonard on short notice(2 weeks) and had a bum hand...I think Floyd Jr is much superior boxer than Senior

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              #86
              Originally posted by Ghazan View Post
              Leonard I think beats him and beats him easily. They both have great speed..but Floyd rarely throws more than one or two or at most three at 147. He pot shots whereas Leonard will rip of combos and if he has you hurt he will go hell for leather to finish you...just check out Leonard vs Hearns 1..leonard went on a ferocious onslaught towards the end to Ko a prime Hearns.

              Feet I give to Leonard, he was younger at 147 then floyd and I think Floyd may have lost a step or two...

              Chin to Leonard too. He took fierce punches of brutal ko artists like Duran,Hagler,Benitez and Hearns and although stunned sometimes never looked badly hurt...Floyd was almost down against Mosely..with respect Mosely's right hand is not in the same league as Hearns.

              I think Leonard has that little bit extra in all

              What do you think?
              The only way Floyd beats Leonard is he would have to avoid him which he's good at that and fight Leonard when he's all wash up as when Terry Norris fought him.

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                #87
                Originally posted by rayb112 View Post
                Leonard resume is better than Floyds but that doesn't mean Leonard could have beating Floyd...Floyd Sr took that fight with Leonard on short notice(2 weeks) and had a bum hand...I think Floyd Jr is much superior boxer than Senior



                Your right about that, but SRL in his prime was nearly unbeatable,, he would outbox you like duran 2, he could outbrawl you like hearns 1, he could make adjustments and beat defensive wizards like aybule and benitez, he could outwill you like hagler..........

                Floyd is a truely great fighter, but SRL proved over and over again that he is the elite of the elite of ATGs,,,

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
                  The Leonard that fought Hearns was the best Leonard I ever saw. I never thought he was quite as good before or after that fight although he fought very well many times. I favor that Leonard to beat Floyd. Floyd was very sharp in his last fight at age 36.Floyd would beat Leonard if Leonard was even a bit off his best which he sometimes was.One thing I have no doubt about is that the 36 year old Floyd destroys the 36 year old Leonard. Leonard did not age well and Floyd seems to be almost as good as ever.Leonard was 34 I think, when he lost every round to Terry Norris.
                  The difference at 36 Is Floyd takes HGH and Leonard was a clean fighter

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Luilun View Post
                    The difference at 36 Is Floyd takes HGH and Leonard was a clean fighter
                    and SRL fought duran 3 times, hearns twice, and hagler, benetiz and aybule among others,,,,,,,

                    Had floyd fought say: casamoyer, lazcano,spadafora, johnston, freitas, tszyu, margs, prime shane and cotto, manny,, he would be alittle shop-worn and old looking,,,,

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                      #90
                      I just don't see Mayweather beating Leonard.

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