Gonna be damn hard for anyone to beat Mayweather

[joesaiditstrue]

Watching his last few fights including tonights pretty much solidifies my belief that nobody at 140-154 would bet a betting favorite or even odds against Floyd

What he does that makes him so hard to hit isn't his defense, it's actually got less to do with his defense than most people think

Floyd is hard to hit because of his offense, because he doesnt fight at a rhythmic pace. he throws punches when his opponent doesnt expect which in turn doesnt allow his opponent to either counter effectively nor "punch with him", as well as his incredible timing and ability to handle the big stage like he's in the gym

for somebody to even be competitive with Floyd, they would have to accept the fact that they're going to get hit and try repeatedly to force Floyd to open up giving yourself opportunities to land during exchanges, you also have to force Floyd away from the center of the ring because despite how good he is on the ropes, he's damn near invincible in the center of the ring. no flat footed fighter beats Floyd, he simply moves too well in the ring

you also have to find a way to frustrate Floyd and get him thinking less about winning and more about hurting you or retaliating.

straight punches will land from the left side (straight left, or orthodox jab), right hand needs to hook upstairs or straight to the body

it requires so much thought and effort to not only carry out this gameplan but then not get absorbed by the bright lights and big moment

just my thoughts

if Floyd keeps fighting 154 and lower, he retires easily undefeated

[boxer2k5]

or someone fast enough to slip and counter slip and counter Floyd as well. But to beat Floyd you have to come in with different game plans. You have to prepare for his offense and defense. FIghters keep saying they have a gameplan but cant get it off. I say so what other gameplans do you have? Did you come into your biggest fight with only one gameplan? Floyd main ability is his ability to adjust on the fly. offense and defense at the same time. And he will abuse what works and try to change what doesn't. Hes fighting guys who come in with a solid gameplan but when it doesn't work they are lost and frustrated. they waste rounds trying to do it over and over again. WHile Floyd is setting you up 2 rounds ahead. Depending on your style is what you have to work on. If you are slower and pressure then yeah you have to take 2 3 to land 1. But you have to be persistent. then Floyd will switch up then what are you going to do? the same thing? wont work. hes like nimrod or doomsday. you cant kill him the same way twice.

Multiple gameplans, great stamina, and the ability to know when and where to pull those plans out and execute is the key. Why? because that's what Floyd does to everyone else. And only when someone with that ability or a 1 in a million Martinez Williams punch will have a chance to beat him. and even then its not guaranteed

[DoubleMM]

unless he gets caught there is 0% he loses.

He was the best I've seen him tonight. His skillset was off the charts. His father back in the corner was made him into a much better fighter. He know utlizles his jab which I felt he was going away from but in this fight his jab alone won him the fight. It completely neutralized anything Canelo wanted to do. SR defensively has sharped Floyd up.

I agree that being flat footed will never win you a fight vs Floyd. I think he stops Garcia, Khan, and Devon @ 147. None of them have a shot.

I actually believe, right now, even though he's older, he's the most dangerous right now because has has so much experience in the ring. Canelo was being pushed back by a fighter who weighed 146lbs this morning.

[Ryn0]

I think the abundance of pressure fighters and the lack of real top boxers/counter punchers helps Floyd a bit.

[joesaiditstrue]

a healthy Martinez or Pacquiao would give Floyd a competitive fight

I'd bet on Sergio to win, as I'm already on record with this, I think Floyd beats Manny but he doesn't dog walk him like a lot if people here think

[DoubleMM]

a healthy Martinez or Pacquiao would give Floyd a competitive fight

I'd bet on Sergio to win, as I'm already on record with this, I think Floyd beats Manny but he doesn't dog walk him like a lot if people here think

stylsitically they have a better shot than most but I personally feel Sergio would get stopped. his style is all about countering and being faster and he throws the same comboination. floyd would walk him down, put a jab in his face and sergio wouldn't have an answer. murray is a basic euro style and he was unaffected by anything sergio threw.

pac has a chance, but I don't think he would be able to find floyd since he's much smaller and lunges in. floyd would just take a step back and keep him on the end of the jab.

[Kagami Taiga]

I think the abundance of pressure fighters and the lack of real top boxers/counter punchers helps Floyd a bit.

There are some excellent boxers/counter punchers around 140-154. Problem is ppl don't believe they can win so they are not hyped as opponents. Ppl see, to think the way to beat Floyd is with size and power. Idiots. Casual fans at best. That's a load of crap. If u don't get that by now, u need to find a new sport.

[Ryn0]

There are some excellent boxers/counter punchers around 140-154. Problem is ppl don't believe they can win so they are not hyped as opponents. Ppl see, to think the way to beat Floyd is with size and power. Idiots. Casual fans at best. That's a load of crap. If u don't get that by now, u need to find a new sport.

Lara and Trout would be harder fights than Canelo etc. (even though Canelo won against Trout)

But there aren't many of them compared to the amount of Power punchers/Pressure fighters at the weights.

[joesaiditstrue]

Lara and Trout would be harder fights than Canelo etc. (even though Canelo won against Trout)

But there aren't many of them compared to the amount of Power punchers/Pressure fighters at the weights.

wish more people were smart enough to see this

I even made a thread back when Canelo fought trout saying I though trout was a tougher fight for Floyd than Canelo and I still believe that

Always thought Lara would make it competitive. People are saying Canelo fought the wrong fight. No, Canelos style is to box at midrange and that style doesn't work well against Mayweather. If people expected Canelo to do his best Ricky Hatton then TDKSAB

[Earl-Hickey]

A couple of years ago Martinez would have been a real fight for floyd with his speed, movement and slickness, not to mention his dynamite o****ering, but he's shot now and theres nobody else