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    #21
    Originally posted by BUNGALOWS View Post
    Is this video supposed to prove that you get hit with a counter left hook eveytime you leap in on Louis? Louis was beating his ass. Conn has the durability of the legends.


    if oyu a ctaully read the post you'd have an answer to your question.


    and have you even seen the fight?

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      #22
      Louis by mid to late rounds stoppage. There was no better or accurate combination punching heavyweight...maybe at any weight. Evander liked to mix it up to much and even if he came in with the plan to box, once he gets tagged he goes in the war path which plays into Joe's hands. He doesn't have Conn's speed or Schmeling's discipline to sit back and just pick his spots. Holy is an ATG, but he'd be in over his head in my opinion.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Newnd View Post
        if oyu a ctaully read the post you'd have an answer to your question.


        and have you even seen the fight?
        Yeah, and Louis KOs him in the 13th. Then KOs him in the 8th of their rematch.

        Holyfield doesnt dance around like that at HW. He's a mid to close range fighter. He'd get hurt even earlier than Conn.

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          #24
          Originally posted by edgarg View Post
          The answer of course is Louis. Regardless of the surely obvious fact that he's better all around, Just consider this; If Holyfirld were to be magically transported to Louis's era, there would be no steroids, and Louis would just make him another win. If Louis were to be transferred to Holyfield/s time, either Louis would also be on steroids, or Chappie Blackburn would not allow the fight until he was sure Holyfield was clean. If Louis can come to the 90s then so can his trainer....... Ergo....Q.E.D.
          The answer is of corse holy he is all around better you idiot joe was way to slow and stiff and holy would never be dropped by those dudes or struggle try watching the matches you outdated dummy

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            #25
            Originally posted by kiDynamite92 View Post
            Holyfield loved to exchange, unless you're liston or foreman, you're not gonna win against louis by exchanging. Louis would knock him out
            Dumb troll

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              #26
              Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
              Most haven't even seen Louis fight they just echo what others do. To say the guy wasn't flawed and limited is ridiculous. He was a one-dimensional flat-footed stalker who couldn't handle speed & movement. Holyfield would pick him apart with severe ease. The guy is inferior in every way, shape & form to Holyfield.
              Hell I am sure if Holyfield wore those little ass gloves from back then he too would have a serious K.O ratio


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              This guy beats prime Holyfield? On what planet?
              Yea look how stiff basic and missing of advances holy had and the people he had these crazy idiots dont watch matches weird joe would never land or would holy ever struggle or be dropped by those dudes

              Holy is the best all around fighter ever joe never was

              then the idiot trolled still and said how you never seen joe fight how is that when you gave the facts from video and posted it see how crazy these idiots are
              Last edited by Ascended; 03-03-2022, 01:10 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by New England View Post
                louis beats him. holyfield's chin would keep him up when the big punches land. louis would end up getting off of the gas later in the fight.

                holyfield was an athletic guy and a great boxer, but he was too willing to put his head down and take punches. this is probably an example of a fighter who would win a fight, but would't. louis might be the most dangerous offensive fighter ever. his right hand was absurd. short, accurate, and hard as F. holyfield would end up trading.


                my only question would be about louis' ability to deal with a mobile fighter of that size. billy conn was tall, but he had a much shorter reach and was naturally much smaller of bone and muscle than holyfield. louis was behind on the judges cards at the time of the stoppage in the first conn fight.

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                here's some of the first conn fight, where you can see why some of the movement might trouble louis. it hsould be noted that conn might look a bit unorthodox because this was the 40's. conn also had a terrific chin.
                Stop trolling you crazy idiot the man posted how stiff and slow he was he never would land so stop you damn idiot the man struggled with mutiple people who holy never would struggle let alone be dropped or ever would he be even beat in that time you idiot
                Last edited by Ascended; 03-03-2022, 01:11 AM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by New England View Post
                  louis beats him. holyfield's chin would keep him up when the big punches land. louis would end up getting off of the gas later in the fight.

                  holyfield was an athletic guy and a great boxer, but he was too willing to put his head down and take punches. this is probably an example of a fighter who would win a fight, but would't. louis might be the most dangerous offensive fighter ever. his right hand was absurd. short, accurate, and hard as F. holyfield would end up trading.


                  my only question would be about louis' ability to deal with a mobile fighter of that size. billy conn was tall, but he had a much shorter reach and was naturally much smaller of bone and muscle than holyfield. louis was behind on the judges cards at the time of the stoppage in the first conn fight.

                  <iframe width="480" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/2zOuvmZXiHg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                  here's some of the first conn fight, where you can see why some of the movement might trouble louis. it hsould be noted that conn might look a bit unorthodox because this was the 40's. conn also had a terrific chin.
                  The man posted how stiff and slow joe was so stop trolling you crazy pretend to be blind idiot joe never would catch holy he was nothing like Joe fought holy moved way to good for him and would end him just stop you exposed yourself you idiot

                  And why are you trying to compare Billy who had nothing on holy on movement dummy you trolls are crazy try not commenting if your gonna make yourself look so dumb
                  Last edited by Ascended; 03-03-2022, 01:19 AM.

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                    #29
                    The Brown Bomber in his prime was fighting 15 rounders, 20 rounders and he made it look easy.

                    In the Rid**** Bowe fights you see how exhausted Holyfield was... Joe drags him into deep waters and drowns him.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SN!PER View Post
                      The Brown Bomber in his prime was fighting 15 rounders, 20 rounders and he made it look easy.

                      In the Rid**** Bowe fights you see how exhausted Holyfield was... Joe drags him into deep waters and drowns him.
                      - - Holy Waters hanging on for dear life in the championship rounds against 40 yr old Foreman...priceless!

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