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    Originally posted by WESS View Post
    It's funny you talk about negotiations not being valid years later. Thats how I felt about Pac wanting his same deal that Floyd initially agreed to years prior. It's just not valid anymore.. Most believe so which is why Pac looked like the duck wanting such deal that wasn't on the table anymore..

    Anyway, all I did was point out that Floyd wanted 147 while Alvarez wanted 150 but later changed it to 154. Floyd changed from 147 to 152. Is it right? No, it should be at 154 like vs the WW Cotto who was fighting at JMW.

    The 22 year old who fights at JMW has the weight advantage in this fight. Not the 36 year old who didn't even make 147 last fight. But again, weight is not the issue here.
    That is why I mentioned it ..... I thought you got what is called Floyd fan amnesia there .... but Floyd didn't want Manny. I know Manny wanted Floyd. Like Roach said many times: "Manny will fight whoever we put in the ring with him"

    After all the criticism from Floyd on Manny, it should have been at 154 .... but Floyd likes having that "extra advantage" even though he always said before "I want my fighters at their most comfortable weight"

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      Originally posted by jbpanama View Post
      This is the Chump, that say's He'd beat the true GOAT, Sugar Ray Robinson.
      I wonder what the Catch Weight demand would be?
      Fact is he would still be in the Prelims in SRR's time.
      He would be in for a long extended vacation hoping that they all retire or beat themselves to death in brutal wars then say "why should I fight leftovers"!!!

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        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        That is why I mentioned it ..... I thought you got what is called Floyd fan amnesia there .... but Floyd didn't want Manny. I know Manny wanted Floyd. Like Roach said many times: "Manny will fight whoever we put in the ring with him"

        After all the criticism from Floyd on Manny, it should have been at 154 .... but Floyd likes having that "extra advantage" even though he always said before "I want my fighters at their most comfortable weight"
        You see that is the problem, the 36 year old who didn't make 147 last fight is not at an advantage when fighting a 22 year old at 152. The advantage Floyd has doesn't come from the weight but that of experience.

        If you pay attention and notice, it's the perception of the entire boxing community. Regardless if Floyd is a hypocrite when it comes to catchweights or not, it's not the issue for this fight. It's just become the issue by a bunch of butt hurt fan boys who praised Pac for doing the same thing. I get it, you look like a tool for it and want to bash Floyd out of anger.. We get it. Just get over it. Nobody agrees with the catchweight. Nobody cares because its not the weight that is the issue for this fight. It's the lack of experience yet we all know if Floyd would have passed on the fight, everyone would have **** themselves...

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          thought he would have been heavier

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            Originally posted by WESS View Post
            You see that is the problem, the 36 year old who didn't make 147 last fight is not at an advantage when fighting a 22 year old at 152. The advantage Floyd has doesn't come from the weight but that of experience.

            If you pay attention and notice, it's the perception of the entire boxing community. Regardless if Floyd is a hypocrite when it comes to catchweights or not, it's not the issue for this fight. It's just become the issue by a bunch of butt hurt fan boys who praised Pac for doing the same thing. I get it, you look like a tool for it and want to bash Floyd out of anger.. We get it. Just get over it. Nobody agrees with the catchweight. Nobody cares because its not the weight that is the issue for this fight. It's the lack of experience yet we all know if Floyd would have passed on the fight, everyone would have **** themselves...
            If weight is not an issue, then whats the point of the CW? You don't ask for a catchweight unless your trying to somehow benefit your chances.

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              Originally posted by WESS View Post
              You see that is the problem, the 36 year old who didn't make 147 last fight is not at an advantage when fighting a 22 year old at 152. The advantage Floyd has doesn't come from the weight but that of experience.

              If you pay attention and notice, it's the perception of the entire boxing community. Regardless if Floyd is a hypocrite when it comes to catchweights or not, it's not the issue for this fight. It's just become the issue by a bunch of butt hurt fan boys who praised Pac for doing the same thing. I get it, you look like a tool for it and want to bash Floyd out of anger.. We get it. Just get over it. Nobody agrees with the catchweight. Nobody cares because its not the weight that is the issue for this fight. It's the lack of experience yet we all know if Floyd would have passed on the fight, everyone would have **** themselves...
              Do you really believe that the CW is a non-issue because Floyd does .... if he didn't, the fight would be at 154.

              Not really. I knew that if Floyd fights Canelo, it would be sooner rather than later. The reason is that, like you said yourself, Canelo's lack of experience may be his downfall. So Floyd would be better off taking the fight now instead of when Canelo has brushed up on his skills, managed his stamina issues, improved on his work-rate and so on.
              So in my eyes, this fight happened at least one year too soon. Floyd has at least 5 fights left. It could have been number 4 or 5 .... but if Canelo improved then Floyd would not have fought him.

              Floyd has fought twice at 154 and has a title. He weighed in at 151 against Cotto. Canelo may come in at 151 something due to the CW. Manny had to fight many times where he was 3-5lbs from the limit and still fought. So Floyd, who has the title should be able to too.

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                Drain'em Floyd...Drain'em! What a Coward. Fights a 154 champ at a catchweight...While he fought at 154 against Cotto with none. What a puzzy!

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                  Originally posted by T18Z View Post
                  Yeah, but GGG still beat him up.
                  there was no judges or evidence of that, the only evidence is what the boxers said and none said there was a winner, if it was a piece of cake for ggg he wouldnt be saying canelo is the best he is spared with...
                  you can believe any rumors you want, i believe what ggg says...

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                    So Canelo gained one pound since he started training camp?

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                      Originally posted by Cupo303 View Post
                      So Canelo gained one pound since he started training camp?
                      lol. This was clearly bull.

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