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Originally posted by torosboxing75 View PostEven if he beats Canelo I think big red will help him feel like he should retire. Canelo is smarter, bigger and stronger then Guerrero and he is probably more dangerous then the past his prime version of Cotto that gave Mayweather all kinds of hell. Canelo should be able to do more damage and win more rounds then Guerrero and Cotto. I gave both of them 4-5 rounds each so lets see what this young stud can do against "el maestro" (the master) of boxing and cherry picking according to some (Floyd Mayweather). Although I wouldn't call Canelo a cherry pick, unless he knows he's running out of options so he better fight him now instead of leaving him for one of his final fights, because if you know your going to have to fight him why allow him to gain more experience; why not get him while he's still a little green.
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View Posti said floyd has fought 2 cw fights-JMM and augustus-although we all know that wasn't a CW fight but a LW fight but i'll even give it to you. thats 2. Manny has fought 3. these are facts.
in floyd's cw fight with JMM he WENT DOWN in weight. Manny's cw fights the OPPONENT WENT DOWN IN WEIGHT 2X. facts
every title floyd has won has been at max weight of division. manny has 2 titles at a cw. this is also a fact.
not until september will floyd have another CW fight. So on sept 15th you have a valid point.
your point about the rapist is ******ed. just admit the truth based on the facts.
OF JR's last fights from Hatton on , how many were not little men , wee little man , washed up men,,,OLD washed up men ?
We know he fought ORTIZ the loser of Maidana and cheated on him.
I will hand you the blown up featherweight that I thought had a chance against the ballerina kid
other than that tell us ,,,,,,,,WHO were the PRIME WW ELITES over the past 8 years that was a small threat ?
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Originally posted by king Ketchel View PostAugustus wasn't a catchweight
I treat evol like ali did floyd patterson-rather than just KHTFO quick I like to have some fun-take my time-get in some extra rounds of work.
you know.
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Originally posted by twosweethooks View PostLets be real, no bs
This is the fight game. Some of us are game enough to put boxing gloves on but that is about as far as it gets, some of us are good enough to fight in the amateurs but not pro and some are good enough to go pro but never win a champeenship, but some are ELITE and have a shot at GLORY !!!!!!!
To squander that, in my book is SIC
Health is important. This is NOT jr's first time to speak of health. Jr REALIZED and is thankful today that he has not fought Pac due to his health.
Jr has great skills in the art of AVOIDANCE !!!
He can move and get away from most shots. He has been nailed and wobbled but managed to over come.
He can avoid certain fighters, Pac for instance. But if we went way back Jr learned how to AVOID many things.
The main thing he learned and pulled the wool over manys eyes is he has learned the Art of Avoiding a Threat.
He KNEW Coralles was not a threat in his present state and condition and pressed for that fight but the general public couldn't see that.
He slickly avoided Mosley years ago and made it look like Mosley didn't want the fight, cause he was a terrible Threat.
when Jr went WW he knew to make tons of money he would have to fool the public, take fights that looked good to the public,,,,,,avoid all comers, avoid all threats.
He learned the art of catchweights without calling them that, for instance:
Hatton, he didn't drain Hatton but made him come to WW, put on more weight that held him down.
Look what he did with JMM. All the b**** can say is how he stomped JMM, DUH !!!!!! He made him put weight on that he was not used to then cheated on him but the general public didn't know or care, he is careful with the general public to build these fighters up but in the boxing world he is not fooling hard core fight fans.
I have Never doubted Jrs SKILLS, he has them , can't deny them.
No one YET has Gotten PAST those SKILLS !!!!!!!!
What has helped that ?
JR KNOWs a threat when he sees one.
JR knows if he can sell the general public on a fight he need not worry about me and many of you turning green and red over the "PICK" he made. He did say he picked his opponents , RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!? Jr is very skilled.
He also knows what a threat could do to him:
Jr has these little signs about him that doesn't reveal a fighters heart.
for instance he won't take off the sunglasses and look Canelo straight in the eye
I will never forget his face offs with Hatton ODH and Mosley. The bigger the threat the more he trashed talk , like he was missing a cog, somethings missing in the boy, like when he got to Mosley he was a basket case , scared, the face off showed his heart was missing something. At that face off Mosely went to Jr and grabbed his arms pushing his face into Jrs and jr boy backed off and thru up his guard, hahaha, like you better back off or I will hit you, hahahahahahhahhha
Deep game fighters are calm, they are not spastic like JR.
I don't KNOW if Canelo can win this fight. Jr views this fight imo as sort of a threat, like he was pushed into this fight probably due to his contract with Showtime and the general pubic realized he did not take up the challenge back in May.
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If Canelo will shut down Jr's exits and ramp up the body attack getting more intense during each round we might see
JR taken to DEEP WATERS, UNKNOWN WATERS and we might see JR BAIL
Your picture says it all! Pac got destroyed by Marquez in the 4th fight! He lost the first three fight to ALL boxing fans accept the pac-tards that's why they kept fighting because pac was getting bogus decisions!
Did you not bet on Robert to beat Floyd last fight?? Ok then cool that nonsense down then!
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View Postyeah I know but I threw evol a little bone. he didn't even know it-poster master chief put it out there and evol's been running with it.
I treat evol like ali did floyd patterson-rather than just KHTFO quick I like to have some fun-take my time-get in some extra rounds of work.
you know.
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View Posthe hasn't fought canelo yet. so as of your email its 3-1 manny. i even gave you the augustus BS so its 3-2 manny.
you called floyd the catchweight king so I was just pointing out the why that should apply to manny using facts. one of the facts I used was manny's 2 cw title wins.
if its requesting CW's- cool. Manny requested cw's for cotto (2x), JMM, Mosley, and Margs thats 5. floyd requested CW's for canelo and JMM- thats 2.
5>>>>>2 so manny still wins.
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Even with Declining Skills he can still beat most of the up and coming fighters who are ALL Extremely OVERRATED by the fans and especially by the boxing media!
I have yet to see a up and coming fighter that just impresses me to the point that I really give that fighter a shot a beating Mayweather. It is nobody in boxing today that would be the favorite over Mayweather and that goes from 130 lbs - 160 lbs. That is saying something, guys are going pro too quickly, they are not developing as overall BOXERS most of them are extremely one-dimensional and very protected by their promoter.
So yeah it is a great chance he will retire before his Skills Decline and he likely retired Undefeated because the ERA after him has talent but most of them don't have the smarts or the skills
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