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Originally posted by DuckDodgers View PostYour statement is ridiculous.
Marquez was avoided like the plague by most other titlists at FW (like Barrerra, Morales, and Naseem Hamed) so he cleaned out most 0of the feared up and coming contenders. Are you forgetting or did you just not realize that Marquez fought Agapito Sanchez, Julio Gervacio, and Alfred Kotey (all future titlists) as he waited 22 months as Hamed's mandatory before being officially ducked? He then fought, Freddie Norwood, Derrick Gainer, Robbie Pedan, Daniel Jiminez, and Manuel Medina (all former of future champs). Are you forgetting that after the Pacquiao draw, Marquez fought Orlando Salido, Chris John (in Indonesia, untelevised, and for pennies!), then Marco Antonio Barrera? After the next Pac fight, he moved up to LW, fought the lineal champ (Casamayor), then defended against Diaz who was feared by everybody. Oh yeah- then Marquez moved up two weight classes to fight Mayweather.
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Originally posted by cabalas View PostI don't think Cotto was beating Floyd (it's just that FM was more passive in some early rounds because Cotto out-weighted Mayweather by 10+ pounds). However, I admit that a real pressure fighter can give problems and even beat Floyd which is exactly what happened with Jose Luis Castillo who should accounted as the first defeat in the record of Floyd (even HBO and Compubox gave the fight to Castillo). Floyd made very good adjustments in the second fight with Castillo and was able to defeat the mexican fighter.
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Originally posted by KING MEAT View Postoh shat JMM could be calling out floyd again.
By saying he is the best P4P in the bussiness saids it all...so estop taking ofence, when all he is doing praising Floyd,
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LOL at people thinking Marquez is part of the "hype" for a guerrero fight.
what in the hell does that accomplish? its either just his opinion or its bait for floyd to look his way since Floyd really DOES NOT want to fight guerrero.
Marquez knows how good Robert is, he ducked him last year.
both he and Floyd will end up ducking the ghost.
if you notice, the only people making noise in the media the past two weeks have been FLOYD AND JMM, its a long shot for floyd to make a rematch with jmm but he's trying his best to avoid Robert. too funny!Last edited by YOU WILL LOSE; 02-15-2013, 05:44 PM.
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostWhat's the confusion with knowing Floyd's formula?:
Least amount of risk with highest amount of reward ($ money $).
While Guerrero has a sub-par WW resume, so does Alexander but being that Guerrero appears to be slightly more riskier than Alexander, one makes the statement "It wouldn't surprise me that Floyd takes on the fighter that is less risky". This statement really puts down Floyd in that someone like Marquez admits that Floyd is a talented boxer who hates taking risks so much that he would even avoid risking a fight with a sub-par WW resume in Guerrero ....
For me, Alexander, Guerrero and Canelo need to be staying busy and call Floyd up next year IF THEY IMPRESS against quality opponents. In the meantime, Floyd can do what he does best: Taking long extended vacations but there are no risky fighters to avoid. So we all know Floyd will do something else that he likes to do. Fight another guy with just a couple of fights under his belt at WW. That is, Guerrero or Alexander .... what a surprise .... NOT!
Where is the source this information came from, you have people commenting on a subject and don't exactly know the context of Marquez's opinion.
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Originally posted by BIGBOXINGFAN View PostWhat a joke.
Marquez fights bums in mexico while waiting on Pacquiao fights.
I watched some bum named Ramos that Marquez fought take a dive.
He is the biggest cherry picker of them all.
Marquez Won't fight any young lions from 135-147
Look at his resume in between Pacquiao fights.
Who is ramos?
Who Fedchenko?
Dude knocked out Juan Diaz, then got toyed with by Mayweather, and instead of fighting the tough fighters at 135-140-147, he chose to fight Juan again.
Why fight Katsidis when 140 was stacked and still is stacked?
What a hypocrite.
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Originally posted by Camp Beast View PostYou kids are silly. To question Marquez's resume because he took a couple tune-ups? Most fighters do! They were both after decent layoffs. For years Marquez was stuck fighting young, dangerous fighters while he was begging Pacquiao for a 3rd fight! If you think Diaz and Katsidis weren't dangerous back in 2009/2010, then you must not pay attention to the game. Diaz only had 1 loss at the time of the first defeat and Katsidis had 2. Not to mention he moved up in weight and knocked Casamayor (the division kingpin at the time)out!
I agree that Floyd carefully hand selects his opponents and fights fighters at the right time. Not financially but physically. I used to be a big Mayweather fan and defend him but I gave up on him once Pacquiao basically conceeded to all of his demands (Olympic style drug testing and the smaller split) and yet Floyd still came up with another reason not to fight. He avoided Margarito, young Cotto, "fresh off the Marg KO" Mosley, and today he avoids Martinez. I'm sure I'm forgetting some others. He's too worried about losing that "0". Marquez knows what he's talking about.
When you fight Pacquiao 4 times and move up to fight Mayweather, that says alot right there.
But to say that Floyd doesn't take risk and cherry picks is a joke when Marquez has recently in his last five fights fought the likes of Pacquiao twice, Ramos,Fedchenko,Katsidis,.
Seems to me that Marquez doesn't like to risk the Pacquiao fights so he fights bums in between them.
So it's okay for Marquez to take tuneups but not okay for Mayweather?
And i'm sorry but there was nothing dangerous about Juan Diaz when Marquez fought him the second time after he had already ko'd him in the first fight.
There was nothing dangerous about a washed up Casamayor.
Or a washed up Barrera.
Throw in victor polo, Kokietgym,Salido ,jaca,and Rocky Juarez . Not elite fighters if you ask me.
Marquez greatness comes from beating Pacquiao thats it.
If you question Floyds resume then you have to question Marquez's.
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Yeah Floyd paid Marquez to say Guerrero would be a tough fight. Wile I don't think, unless Floyd has slipped considerably since May, that Guerrero will be a tough fight, he is a very legit fight against a top ranked Welterweight coming off some decent enough wins to get his shot.
Marquez-Guerrero would be a bad ass fight.
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