Comments Thread For: Marquez Not Surprised if Mayweather Rejects Guerrero

[GodInFleshSuit]

How can you call Diaz a dangerous fight.....than say Floyd cherry picked Ortiz, Cotto, and now Guerrero??? That's a double standard if I've ever seen one.

Diaz was a dangerous fight at that time! I already explained why earlier. As far as Mayweather's choices of Ortiz (came off impressive win but just before that he looked bad against Maidana & Peterson), Cotto (beat Margarito but hadn't looked good before that since before Marg I), and Guerrero (tough fighter but he's a lightweight w/ little name value). My point is that Mayweather should have fought Pacquiao but instead chose to take the easier fights in Ortiz & Cotto. Now he should be fighting Martinez but instead opts for Guerrero or Alexander. You don't think that's cherry picking?

[YOU WILL LOSE]

Remember this thread and watch how people back peddle if/when the Mayweather vs Guerrero fight gets signed

no backpeddling, ill just hop onto the floyd will lose threads. gbp and schaffer had to bring in his daddy to tell him it was OK, and that he would help to train him for the ghost. he needs all the help he can get, hes getting pizza faced!!

[4Corners]

Diaz was a dangerous fight at that time! I already explained why earlier. As far as Mayweather's choices of Ortiz (came off impressive win but just before that he looked bad against Maidana & Peterson), Cotto (beat Margarito but hadn't looked good before that since before Marg I), and Guerrero (tough fighter but he's a lightweight w/ little name value). My point is that Mayweather should have fought Pacquiao but instead chose to take the easier fights in Ortiz & Cotto. Now he should be fighting Martinez but instead opts for Guerrero or Alexander. You don't think that's cherry picking?

I don't want to dive into Mayweather/Pacquiao should have happened topic, because both are to blame for it not happening. It could have happened in March 2010 when everything was ready, but we all know what happened, and than what proceeded to happen afterward for 2 1/2 years.

I don't see how Floyd SHOULD 100% have to fight Sergio. Martinez is the Middleweight champ and isn't fighting his own biggest threats at 160. He hasn't been to 154 in 4 years (8 fights now counting Murray). Sergio should stop calling out smaller fighters and fight Golovkin/Geale/Pirog/Quillin. There's no way a Welterweight, who originally started at 130, should absolutely 100% have to fight the Middleweight champ. I'm sorry....

And you can't call Diaz a dangerous fight, than say Ortiz/Cotto/Guerrero are cherry picks. Diaz was coming off losing to Campbell, getting a SD win over Katsidis, getting a terrible decision win against Paulie, and than losing to Paulie again. So how was he a good fight again??? It wasn't bad, but not some huge risk that was taken.

[GodInFleshSuit]

He fought Genaro Hernandez, lineal champ at 130, at 21 years old. He fought Manfredy coming off beating a prime Gatti. He fought undefeated and Top 10 P4P Corrales. He fought #1 LW and coming off a win over Johnston, Jose Luis Castillo. He fought Oscar at 154 lbs, when Oscar had every single advantage in the book that night. He fought Top 10 P4P and undefeated Hatton. He fought #2 P4P Marquez, which was crap at the time, but how does that look now??? He fought #3 P4P Mosley, coming off beating Margarito.

On top of those wins, he's compiled a list of other good wins too. Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, Ortiz, and Cotto as well.

No argements there. I don't question his resume up to Hatton. After that though, there's definitely room for debate. When you're the top P4P in the world and you barely fight. You should be fighting the next in line, period! Cotto (07-08), Margarito (08), Pac (09-12), and now Martinez.

[Thaibox]

Only problem would be Manny was kicking his (Juan) butt a little prior to stepping into one. If Manny could bust up Juan so can Floyd! Juan had no answers for Floyd the first time around, he'd get beat again! I think Robert gets the fight with Floyd and if he can handle decent 147 power (that Berto doesn't have) then he'll give Floyd a very good fight. If he can't stand in with Mayweather than he's going to get busted up. One respect he's eay for Floyd because he'll be right there, the tuff part is he'll be right there also hahaha!!!!
Ray.

People make it out like he was SOOOOOOOO far ahead of Marquez before the KO, what was he? 1 point ahead? 2 points? He would have gotten robbed again anyway so it doesn't matter what happened before that, what happens was manny was KO'd.

[ox805er]

He fought Genaro Hernandez, lineal champ at 130, at 21 years old. He fought Manfredy coming off beating a prime Gatti. He fought undefeated and Top 10 P4P Corrales. He fought #1 LW and coming off a win over Johnston, Jose Luis Castillo. He fought Oscar at 154 lbs, when Oscar had every single advantage in the book that night. He fought Top 10 P4P and undefeated Hatton. He fought #2 P4P Marquez, which was crap at the time, but how does that look now??? He fought #3 P4P Mosley, coming off beating Margarito.

On top of those wins, he's compiled a list of other good wins too. Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, Ortiz, and Cotto as well.

genaro? yeah he was good... but didnt dlh hand his ass a few years before?? like broken nose and all?? by the time floyd got to him he was done.. didnt he retire after that? manfredy.. ok?? didnt gatti lose back to back after manfredy to some joke?? how was that prime? corrales was too slow.. i've always said that.. but a good win none the less.. other than that.. de la hoya was old.. doing it for $$ castillo robbed.. johnston? f(h)atton's only other ww fight should of been a loss to collazo.. and plus cortez (ref.. in case) wouldnt let hatton work on the inside.. weak! and you guys keep bringin up a lightweight in marquez.. that's my boy and even i said no chance.. too much of size difference.. age.. and skills.. overmatched hugely..mosely after catching margacheeto (who i did support) then shot gatti.. one hit wonder baldo.. judah after losing to one hit wonder.. ortiz cause he beat over hyped berta.. cotto's win was tough and good.. but cotto's not the same at jr middle.. slower..

so your point is??

[4Corners]

genaro? yeah he was good... but didnt dlh hand his ass a few years before?? like broken nose and all?? by the time floyd got to him he was done.. didnt he retire after that? manfredy.. ok?? didnt gatti lose back to back after manfredy to some joke?? how was that prime? corrales was too slow.. i've always said that.. but a good win none the less.. other than that.. de la hoya was old.. doing it for $$ castillo robbed.. johnston? f(h)atton's only other ww fight should of been a loss to collazo.. and plus cortez (ref.. in case) wouldnt let hatton work on the inside.. weak! and you guys keep bringin up a lightweight in marquez.. that's my boy and even i said no chance.. too much of size difference.. age.. and skills.. overmatched hugely..mosely after catching margacheeto (who i did support) then shot gatti.. one hit wonder baldo.. judah after losing to one hit wonder.. ortiz cause he beat over hyped berta.. cotto's win was tough and good.. but cotto's not the same at jr middle.. slower..

so your point is??

This post sums up why anyone who does post like this on websites like this, can not and should not be taken seriously.

[GodInFleshSuit]

I don't want to dive into Mayweather/Pacquiao should have happened topic, because both are to blame for it not happening. It could have happened in March 2010 when everything was ready, but we all know what happened, and than what proceeded to happen afterward for 2 1/2 years.

I don't see how Floyd SHOULD 100% have to fight Sergio. Martinez is the Middleweight champ and isn't fighting his own biggest threats at 160. He hasn't been to 154 in 4 years (8 fights now counting Murray). Sergio should stop calling out smaller fighters and fight Golovkin/Geale/Pirog/Quillin. There's no way a Welterweight, who originally started at 130, should absolutely 100% have to fight the Middleweight champ. I'm sorry....

And you can't call Diaz a dangerous fight, than say Ortiz/Cotto/Guerrero are cherry picks. Diaz was coming off losing to Campbell, getting a SD win over Katsidis, getting a terrible decision win against Paulie, and than losing to Paulie again. So how was he a good fight again??? It wasn't bad, but not some huge risk that was taken.

The Pac/Floyd thing is played I know but in the end Pac conceeded to Mayweather's demands and Floyd still didn't fight the guy. Biggest payday in boxing history and he passes it up??? Hmmmm

Martinez has been calling out Mayweather for a couple years now. Let's not forget that Martinez is a natural 154 fighter (the division Floyd holds a title). Martinez has always said he's meet Floyd at 154 or lower. As far as Sergio not fighting Golovkin, Quillen, Pirog, etc....those guys have little name value. All risk/no reward. He just beat JCC after basically corning the kid into finally fighting him. Martinez is the biggest fight Floyd could make right now and like I said, he doesn't dare mention him.

Diaz was the man at 135 before the Campbell loss. I'll give you the Malignaggi robbery but besides that, the kid was a former P4P fighter, young, and that made him dangerous! All risk/little reward.

[ox805er]

This post sums up why anyone who does post like this on websites like this, can not and should not be taken seriously.

GREAT COMEBACK!!

[Thaibox]

He fought Genaro Hernandez, lineal champ at 130, at 21 years old. He fought Manfredy coming off beating a prime Gatti. He fought undefeated and Top 10 P4P Corrales. He fought #1 LW and coming off a win over Johnston, Jose Luis Castillo. He fought Oscar at 154 lbs, when Oscar had every single advantage in the book that night. He fought Top 10 P4P and undefeated Hatton. He fought #2 P4P Marquez, which was crap at the time, but how does that look now??? He fought #3 P4P Mosley, coming off beating Margarito.

On top of those wins, he's compiled a list of other good wins too. Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, Ortiz, and Cotto as well.

Don't forget that he fought Mosley off of his win over cheato AFTER he went to the wildcard and called manny out, who wanted no part of him unless it was at what? 142 was it? Catchweight king!!! lmao