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Since Fitzsimmons refuses to do this and is more preoccupied with trying to prove the HOF wrong then admitting that perhaps HE was wrong, I'll say it more for my own sake.
Congratulations to the Gatti Estate, Arturo will proudly hang alongside other luminary fighters, many I'm sure he passionately idolized. This position and priviledge has been made possible by many dedicated fans who surely felt that Gatti deserves a spot in boxing history. Arturo Gatti brought an excitment and style to the ring unique from anyone else, and will be missed by all.
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Like it or not Gatti enhanced the great sport we loved. There are several figures who are in the Boxing Hall of Fame that never laced up a pair of gloves, voted soley on their contributions to our great sport. Can anyone deny the contributions Thunder brought?
I never placed Gatti anywhere in the discussion of Top talent however unlike other sports there is more to this sport than talent and record. Boxing is that unique sport.
With that said, the writer is a tool looking for a strong reaction. We all knew the decision to induct Gatti in would be controversial but there are much better ways to express your disagreement.
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Please Boxingscene, don't publish any further articles from the same author about the same subject.
In my opinion, the author fails to grasp some of the bases of greatness. What is much worse though, he starts to be truly annoying with his insistence. Yeah guy, we heard you the first few times you said you didn't think Gatti was HoF worthy. You going to keep crying like a baby for years? He got inducted, story is over. Most people who post here think you're wrong, and so do a majority of boxing journalists. Stop making a fool of yourself by repeating the same story like a 4 year old.
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Totally agree with Lyle.
The HOF should be reserved for the elite, with no exceptions.
" contributions to boxing " can get an honorable mention in a separate category.
Recognized pinnacles within this sport have been watered down enough.
Belts are completely worthless now, and cannot be used as justification for HOF contention.
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Come on man, the question was not... " how much did you love Gatti ? "
I loved him too.
The question was... " how did Gatti compare with Robinson, Duran, Ali, etc... "
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Originally posted by stretchedout View PostTotally agree with Lyle.
The HOF should be reserved for the elite, with no exceptions.
" contributions to boxing " can get an honorable mention in a separate category.
Recognized pinnacles within this sport have been watered down enough.
Belts are completely worthless now, and cannot be used as justification for HOF contention.
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Its funny how much of a nerve is touched with Gatti. Gatti was special because frankly? he was one of us...Watching a fighter like James Toney, even a 400 pound Toney, punch drunk and surely as a drunken sailor it is immeditely obvious how beautiful the man moves around the ring. We can look at that and see how gifted, how particular that talent is.
Gatti? Gatti was beautifully ugly!! He won ugly by being relentless! He found a way to paray his willfulness and defy the odds and inspired us. The Ward Gatti fight was a recognition, a fanfare for the common man a la boxing...two guys who were basically club fighters (whats wrong with that BTW?) one step from the guy coming home from the factory and putting on the mitts....It was a contest of wills not skills!
I think if it is understood that boxing has its roots, whether in England, Irish Immigrants, Cuban expats, or Russian ***s in Brooklyn....as a working man's endevour. The beauty of two men beating each other and settling it, shaking on it, buying the other guy a beer....no winner or loser need be declared, friends for life, having shared something as intimate as anything in this world. And to me that was Gatti. The fact that he could even get into a ring and challenge Mayweather for a few rounds is a testiment to how much one can accomplish when acting as a man in a man's world. In the Mayweather fight Gatti never backed down. He had to be forced to stop.
In boxing there is in fact room for "club fighters" because most of us would be club fighters. In fact very few are born with all the tools to fight like a James Toney, a Mayweather or a Donaire. Gatti's fights were more than entertainment....in much the same way that Hemmingway wrote about more than simply bullfights.
I would have to agree that this writer, who I find entertaining, does not seem to get this aspect of prize fighting. Prodigy's are surely the rule of the day, but when LaMotta fought Ray Robinson and kept coming and coming, it showed that even the best fighter...perhaps ever! could at least once, be overcome by the sheer will of a guy who might be considered by Fitzy and his Ilk as a "club fighter."
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