How does Floyd not get credit for beating a guy 3 years ago

[Welter_Skelter]

Awww guys come on already!!!... I just said I think he might be the best ever.. Isn't that enough? I am not going to suck on his nut sack if you don't mind.
I think he is insecure and so do a lot of people.. I am answering your question why he gets no credit.. Are you going to club me over the head until I submit?
I won't.. Floyd Mayweather lacks conviction.. He chooses the path of least resistance and that sucks when you consider how freakishly skilled he is.

[4Corners]

Certain fighters end up fighting highly ranked fighters in their weight classes and get loads of credit.

But Genaro Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Diego Corrales, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo, Arturo Gatti, Carlos Baldomir, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz, and Miguel Cotto were all highly ranked fighters when he fought them. All in the top 3-4 when he fought them, except Hatton who was #1 at 140 and #8 P4P.

Tszyu, Wright, Margarito, and Pacquiao were the fights that didn't happen that could have enhanced his legacy a bit.

Tszyu wasn't Floyd's fault, Tszyu was on his injury layoff when Floyd came up to 140. And when he came back, Floyd voiced wanting to fight the Tszyu-Hatton winner, Tszyu lost. Oh well.

Wright wasn't Floyd's fault either. Floyd was trying to jump two weight classes to fight Wright, who's promoter Gary Shaw couldn't agree on a split with Bob Arum, saying Wright had too much to lose and nothing to gain in the fight.

Pacquiao was BOTH sides fault, I don't see how anyone could say otherwise. None of them involved wanted it at the same time, one of the biggest f**k ups in boxing history. Maybe it can still happen if Manny bounces back with a solid win or two, who knows???

Margarito is the one that Floyd can be blamed for pretty much. He could have fought Margarito in 2006, but he said he'd fight Margarito if Arum could get him the money he wanted to fight Oscar and Cotto. Arum said he couldn't. Floyd ended up getting that money anyway fighting Baldomir, Oscar, and Hatton, 2 of which Floyd was supposedly currently "ducking" as well. I still think a major reason it didn't happen was Floyd and Arum not doing business together, and Floyd having his eye on Mosley and Oscar.

[J Dubb II 330]

Who has Floyd ducked ????

Margarito??? brought up before Floyd left Arum, Floyd fights Baldomir who beat Judah, undefeated for 8 years and lineal champ. Margarito goes on to get beat by Williams.

Mosley ??? Calling him out for years. Mosley was never in good position to fight Floyd, between his Forrest and Winky losses. Floyd fights him when Pac and Roach wanted nothing to do with him.

DLH ??? Floyd wanted him since 04 but Arum told him it wasn't in the cards for him and even laughed at him when Floyd suggested he could get 20 million to fight him.

Cotto??? That fight was being set up at 140, after Cotto who was at ring side for the Bruseles fight, and witnessed that domination. His team decided to pass on Floyd and fight Torres and Malignaggi instead.

Pac??? Don't even need to explain. Arum, and his latest all of the sudden backing of OSDT for a possible 5th Marquez and Pac fight proves this even more.

That sums that up. Other then that he has fought mostly who the public has asked for. You can't fight everybody

[Larry the boss]

Who has Floyd ducked ????

Margarito??? Only brought up after Floyd left Arum, Floyd fights Baldomir who beat Judah, undefeated for 8 years and lineal champ. Margarito goes on to get beat by Williams.

Mosley ??? Calling him out for years. Mosley was never in good position to fight Floyd, between his Forrest and Winky losses. Floyd fights him when Pac and Roach wanted nothing to do with him.

DLH ??? Floyd wanted him since 04 but Arum told him it wasn't in the cards for him and even laughed at him when Floyd suggested he could get 20 million to fight him.

Cotto??? That fight was being set up at 140, after Cotto who was at ring side for the Bruseles fight, and witnessed that domination. His team decided to pass on Floyd and fight Torres and Malignaggi instead.

Pac??? Don't even need to explain. Arum, and his latest all of the sudden backing of OSDT for a possible 5th Marquez and Pac fight proves this even more.

That sums that up. Other then that he has fought mostly who the public has asked for. You can't fight everybody

ownage.........

[Null]

Mayweather started his career as a super featherweight and fought as low as 106 lbs as an amateur. Mayweather himself is not a real welterweight! Emmanuel Steward said this years ago. The guy is only an inch taller than Marquez and an inch and a half taller than Pacquiao. You're a fool to think a fight against Marquez is equal to a fight against Martinez or Ward for Mayweather. It's not even in the same ballpark.

The reason LarryX brings up that fight is because 3 years ago everyone was acting as if Pacquiao was the man to beat Mayweather and now that he's been knocked out by a guy Mayweather easily handled AT THE SAME WEIGHT you guys refuse to give him any credit.

It is not foolish to compare Mayweather to Martinez at 160 or Ward at 168 since Marquez jumped up two weight divisions to fight Mayweather at 147. You can't believe for a second Marquez or Pacquiao have any business at welterweight, those dudes are not welterweights at all. Mayweather has been fighting at 140 or above since 2004. Pacquiao and Marquez were still at 130 in 2008. Come on, man. That fight Mayweather had against Marquez was a joke, and no one gave Marquez any kind of chance in that fight. Everyone knew Mayweather would beat him. Please stop it, though. Don't act like anyone gave Marquez a shot going into that fight. It was a joke fight.

[J Dubb II 330]

That is right about Margarito. But thats not a duck that's business.

There are reasons why fights don't happen and 99% of them have nothing to do with ducking. Floyd has fought some of the best and biggest challenges.

Not many boxers rematch a guy they beat just because lederman says he didn't.

But when you look at who Pac has fought, its far worse. He has ducked his fair share and almost always has some kind of pre fight advantage, whether its weight, or match making, etc

[4Corners]

It is not foolish to compare Mayweather to Martinez at 160 or Ward at 168 since Marquez jumped up two weight divisions to fight Mayweather at 147. You can't believe for a second Marquez or Pacquiao have any business at welterweight, those dudes are not welterweights at all. Mayweather has been fighting at 140 or above since 2004. Pacquiao and Marquez were still at 130 in 2008. Come on, man. That fight Mayweather had against Marquez was a joke, and no one gave Marquez any kind of chance in that fight. Everyone knew Mayweather would beat him. Please stop it, though. Don't act like anyone gave Marquez a shot going into that fight. It was a joke fight.

So if Fighter A fights Fighter B, he's suppose to win and does so convincingly. Now two and three years later, Fighter B fights Fighter C (another top fighter at the same weight) and beats him.....Fighter A doesn't than get credit for whupping up on Fighter B???

After all, Marquez proved his worth at the weight by beating the supposed #1 fighter there. And don't tell me Manny doesn't belong at WW, when he's been around the same weight as Floyd for 3 years now, and was like 150 lbs on fight night a week ago. Manny was proven at 147 too.

[ADP02]

so he is going to fight Vitali??sure in hell would be a damn good fight...try again

Brothers will not fight each other ..... You know what I mean Larry. One may say that Wladimir will be fighting the official #1 contender for his belt but that don't mean much when the division is what it is today.

Similarly, when Baldomir was champ, it didn't mean that he was an elite quality opponent, does it?

Hatton was P4P top 10 perhaps but he wasn't that because of what he did at WW. It was because of what he did at 140!

Mosley was rated because of what he did 16 months earlier against a cheat. Those inactive 16 months made an old Mosley become older and never looked good after that. See?

[Larry the boss]

It is not foolish to compare Mayweather to Martinez at 160 or Ward at 168 since Marquez jumped up two weight divisions to fight Mayweather at 147. You can't believe for a second Marquez or Pacquiao have any business at welterweight, those dudes are not welterweights at all. Mayweather has been fighting at 140 or above since 2004. Pacquiao and Marquez were still at 130 in 2008. Come on, man. That fight Mayweather had against Marquez was a joke, and no one gave Marquez any kind of chance in that fight. Everyone knew Mayweather would beat him. Please stop it, though. Don't act like anyone gave Marquez a shot going into that fight. It was a joke fight.

yes it is..147 is jmm 5th division...160 would be floyds 6th and 168 would be his 7th plus do i really need to post the weight charts p@ctards made comparing the size of Manny and Floyd at similar ages?

[Larry the boss]

Brothers will not fight each other ..... You know what I mean Larry. One may say that Wladimir will be fighting the official #1 contender for his belt but that don't mean much when the division is what it is today.

Similarly, when Baldomir was champ, it didn't mean that he was an elite quality opponent, does it?

Hatton was P4P top 10 perhaps but he wasn't that because of what he did at WW. It was because of what he did at 140!

Mosley was rated because of what he did 16 months earlier against a cheat. Those inactive 16 months made an old Mosley become older and never looked good after that. See?

Baldo was the lineal champ and Brian Kenny claim Floyd was ducking him when he fought Judah

Hatton was a former ww champ and once again Brian Kenny claimed Floyd was ducking him

Mosley was the #1 ww and most on here claimed Floyd was afraid of him and would never fight him after he came into the ring after the Jmm fight

lets not rewrite history..if he did not fight these fighters people on here would cliam he ducked them just like they did before he fought them..but as usual after Floyd fights them they become bums of shot