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    WHY ARGUELLO WAS THE GREATEST 130 POUNDER EVER...


    On November 18, 1921 Johnny Dundee won on a fifth round disqualification
    over George " KO " Chaney to become the first recognized champion of the
    junior lightweight division.He would lose and then regain the title in a
    pair of 1923 fifteen rounders against Jack Bernstein. Dundee would lose the
    title for good in 1924 via a ten round points loss to Steve " Kid "
    Sullivan. In 1925 Sullivan would lose the title to Mike Ballerino. Later
    that year Ballerino would be stopped by Tod Morgan.

    Morgan would reign for four years before he was halted in two rounds by
    Benny Bass. In the summer of 1931 Bass would lose the title to the talented
    Kid Chocolate.In 1933 Frankie Klick stopped the " Kid ". It would be sixteen
    years before the title would resurface again. On December 6, 1949 in the
    grand city of Cleveland, Ohio the great Sandy Saddler outscored the slick
    Orlando Zulueta for the " vacant " title.

    It would be nearly a decade before a fight for the " vacant " title would
    take place. On July 20, 1959 Harold Gomes outscored Paul Jorgensen ane the
    130 pound division has been with us ever since. Gomes would lose the title
    in 1960 to a wonderful fighting machine from the Philippines named Flash
    Elorde. Flash would go on to establish himself as one of the best little
    fighters of that time period. Elorde would finally lose the title in 1967 to
    Japan's Yoshiaki Numata. Later that year Numata would surrender the title to
    fellow countryman Hiroshi Kobayashi.

    A little over a year later the fledging World Boxing Council decided that
    they would recognize the winner of a bout between Rene Barrientos and the
    dangerous Ruben Navarro which was won by Barrientos. In 1970 Numata would "
    regain " the crown with a points win over Barrientos. Over a year later
    Kobayashi would lose the " real " title to rugged Alfredo Marcano. A few
    months later Numata would be dethroned by Ricardo Arrendondo.

    To try to keep up the the exchanging of belts between the WBA, WBC and
    later IBF would be a waste of space. The division was graced by some fine
    fighters. There was the power punching Ben Villaflor, the slick stylist
    Sammy Serrano and the great Alfredo Escalera.On January 28, 1978 the game
    Escalera would relinquish his title to possibly the greatest 130 pounder of
    all time. The " Explosive Thin Man " himself; Alexis Arguello.

    Why is Arguello a good choice as the best 130 pounder ever ? Rafael "
    Bazooka " Limon, Boza Edwards, Rolando Navarette and Bobby Chacon were all
    defeated by Alexis while he held the crown.All four would gain title
    recognition after Alexis moved up go after the lightweight title.That is how
    dominant Alexis was at 130.

    The 1980's produced some fine titleholders such as Roger Mayweather,
    Hector Camacho, Julio Cesar Chavez, Rocky Lockridge, Azumah Nelson, Brian
    Mitchell and the popular Tony " Tiger " Lopez.

    The 1990's gave us Genero Hernandez, Gabe Ruelas, Jesse James Leija,
    Arturo Gatti, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Diego Corrales. The new millinium has
    produced Acelino Frietas and Joel Casamayor for starters. Still no one with
    the possible exception of Flash Elorde dominated the weight class like
    Alexis Arguello, the greatest junior lightweight of all time !

    #2
    Originally posted by neverlast
    WHY ARGUELLO WAS THE GREATEST 130 POUNDER EVER...


    On November 18, 1921 Johnny Dundee won on a fifth round disqualification
    over George " KO " Chaney to become the first recognized champion of the
    junior lightweight division.He would lose and then regain the title in a
    pair of 1923 fifteen rounders against Jack Bernstein. Dundee would lose the
    title for good in 1924 via a ten round points loss to Steve " Kid "
    Sullivan. In 1925 Sullivan would lose the title to Mike Ballerino. Later
    that year Ballerino would be stopped by Tod Morgan.

    Morgan would reign for four years before he was halted in two rounds by
    Benny Bass. In the summer of 1931 Bass would lose the title to the talented
    Kid Chocolate.In 1933 Frankie Klick stopped the " Kid ". It would be sixteen
    years before the title would resurface again. On December 6, 1949 in the
    grand city of Cleveland, Ohio the great Sandy Saddler outscored the slick
    Orlando Zulueta for the " vacant " title.

    It would be nearly a decade before a fight for the " vacant " title would
    take place. On July 20, 1959 Harold Gomes outscored Paul Jorgensen ane the
    130 pound division has been with us ever since. Gomes would lose the title
    in 1960 to a wonderful fighting machine from the Philippines named Flash
    Elorde. Flash would go on to establish himself as one of the best little
    fighters of that time period. Elorde would finally lose the title in 1967 to
    Japan's Yoshiaki Numata. Later that year Numata would surrender the title to
    fellow countryman Hiroshi Kobayashi.

    A little over a year later the fledging World Boxing Council decided that
    they would recognize the winner of a bout between Rene Barrientos and the
    dangerous Ruben Navarro which was won by Barrientos. In 1970 Numata would "
    regain " the crown with a points win over Barrientos. Over a year later
    Kobayashi would lose the " real " title to rugged Alfredo Marcano. A few
    months later Numata would be dethroned by Ricardo Arrendondo.

    To try to keep up the the exchanging of belts between the WBA, WBC and
    later IBF would be a waste of space. The division was graced by some fine
    fighters. There was the power punching Ben Villaflor, the slick stylist
    Sammy Serrano and the great Alfredo Escalera.On January 28, 1978 the game
    Escalera would relinquish his title to possibly the greatest 130 pounder of
    all time. The " Explosive Thin Man " himself; Alexis Arguello.

    Why is Arguello a good choice as the best 130 pounder ever ? Rafael "
    Bazooka " Limon, Boza Edwards, Rolando Navarette and Bobby Chacon were all
    defeated by Alexis while he held the crown.All four would gain title
    recognition after Alexis moved up go after the lightweight title.That is how
    dominant Alexis was at 130.

    The 1980's produced some fine titleholders such as Roger Mayweather,
    Hector Camacho, Julio Cesar Chavez, Rocky Lockridge, Azumah Nelson, Brian
    Mitchell and the popular Tony " Tiger " Lopez.

    The 1990's gave us Genero Hernandez, Gabe Ruelas, Jesse James Leija,
    Arturo Gatti, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Diego Corrales. The new millinium has
    produced Acelino Frietas and Joel Casamayor for starters. Still no one with
    the possible exception of Flash Elorde dominated the weight class like
    Alexis Arguello, the greatest junior lightweight of all time !
    How the f**k can you bring up the names Leija, Ruelas, and Hernandez w/o mentioning the names of Oscar De La Hoya and Mosley @ 130lbs. Hoto busted up Genaro and blew out Leija. Mosley would've done the same or worse. How the hell do you miss those two?

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      #3
      Footnotes to Arguello's career:

      Arguello lost by IST ROUND TKO in his pro debut to Cachorro Amaya. Amaya has not been heard of since.

      Arugello's career beginnings were rocky: he lost two of his first five appearances; his second loss was to Miguel Espinoza (PNTS 6).

      Arguello also lost on his first world title try (1974): to Panamanian Ernesto Marcel in Panama City. Marcel was on his 4th defense of the WBC Featherweight title he wrested from Kuniaki Shibata a little over three years before. Marcel retired after that fight.

      In 1972, El Flaco Explosivo lost by 6th round TKO to Jorge Reyes, a fighter who had lost all of his three fights preceding the meeting with Arguello! The loss was made even more embarassing in that the fight was held in Arguello's hometown of Managua, Nicaragua! But Arguello racked up 13 consecutive wins on his way to the date with Marcel.
      Alexis really picked himself up after each set-back. Such character. If he is not the best 130-pounder ever, then, he should be among the greatest come-back kids in boxing.

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        #4
        Originally posted by grayfist
        Footnotes to Arguello's career:

        Arguello lost by IST ROUND TKO in his pro debut to Cachorro Amaya. Amaya has not been heard of since.

        Arugello's career beginnings were rocky: he lost two of his first five appearances; his second loss was to Miguel Espinoza (PNTS 6).

        Arguello also lost on his first world title try (1974): to Panamanian Ernesto Marcel in Panama City. Marcel was on his 4th defense of the WBC Featherweight title he wrested from Kuniaki Shibata a little over three years before. Marcel retired after that fight.

        In 1972, El Flaco Explosivo lost by 6th round TKO to Jorge Reyes, a fighter who had lost all of his three fights preceding the meeting with Arguello! The loss was made even more embarassing in that the fight was held in Arguello's hometown of Managua, Nicaragua! But Arguello racked up 13 consecutive wins on his way to the date with Marcel.
        Alexis really picked himself up after each set-back. Such character. If he is not the best 130-pounder ever, then, he should be among the greatest come-back kids in boxing.
        Also According to the telecast of Ramirez and Mancini, they say Ramirez arguably beat Arguello in their fight which ended in split decision and Arguello was down in.

        So if thats true he also "lost" his title that night
        Last edited by .::|ULTIMATE|::.; 12-17-2005, 01:04 AM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
          According to the telecast of Ramirez and Mancini, they say Ramirez arguably beat Arguello in their fight which ended in split decision and Arguello was down in.
          I have no idea what they were referring to. Sorry. The only meeting I can recall between Mancini and Arguello was the one in Bally's in Atlantic City late in 1981. It ended in a 14th round TKO win for Arguello. Mancini, who climbed the ring undefeated (20-0), was already notorious for being a bleeder. The fight was at Lightweight: WBC.

          Arguello met Jose Luis Ramirez, previously, in 1980, and Arguello went down in the 6th. The Nicaraguan was awarded a controversial Split D. No title was at stake and the fight went the scheduled distance of 10 rounds. At the time, Arguello was going up to a higher weight class, after successfully defending his WBC SuperFeather title against Rolando Navarette. He had earlier met Cornelius Boza-Edwards at the 135- pound limit.

          They must have confused those two fights.

          Edit! Edit! Edit!:


          Sorry, I misread your comment. They were correct. The Ramirez result was indeed controversial. That's what happens if I don't use my own glasses! (Borrowed the wife's)

          Arguello did not lose any title because none was at stake in the Ramirez encounter.

          My apologies again.
          Last edited by grayfist; 12-17-2005, 01:32 AM.

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            #6
            Arguello or Nelson...in my estimation. That would have been a hell of a fight.

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              #7
              arguello was a good fighter..but mayweather would run over him and so would de la hoya..mosley only had a few fights @ 130 but he'd beat him also

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                #8
                ....Alexis is one of my top 5 favorite fighters of all times and I'm still pissed about the first fight with Pryor.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by pbds
                  ....Alexis is one of my top 5 favorite fighters of all times and I'm still pissed about the first fight with Pryor.

                  pryor owned him twice

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by oldgringo
                    Arguello or Nelson...in my estimation. That would have been a hell of a fight.
                    Yea! Nelson met Salvador Sanchez. That was one helluva fight too! It was Sanchez's last.

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