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    Originally posted by Phantomas View Post
    Yep, it could be a draw... but Bradley took the championship rounds. Belt has to go to him.


    Ps.- And to the dudes saying that Márquez-Pac 3 was close, it can´t be close when you get caught in a tactical cage the whole fight, which is what happened to Pac.
    I keep reading the argument that Bradley took the championship rounds or Pac only fought the last minute of each round or the HBO crew called a bias fight or Bradley had injured ankles/feet. All excellent opinions but with no real reasoning or logic to them.

    I'd love to read a solid assessment of how Bradley actually won this fight. Clean punching (no), Power shots (no), Better Defence (surprisingly no), Effective aggression (50-50), Ring generalship (50-50). How did Timmy win this fight, please explain to me because 20 years of watching boxing I must be blinded by the Pac bandwagon.

    Keeping a safe distance, pawing the occasional jab and connecting with a body shot from time to time are not enough to win a fight imo. Pac landed the cleaner, harder punches, limited Bradley to a low connect %, and showed just as much effective aggression/ ring generalship. Why must the belt go to Bradley?

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      "they are unable to reverse the dicision"

      i believe this means pacquiao will be accomodated in such way to let the public know there was some monkey bussiness going on.

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        Originally posted by KTFO View Post
        I keep reading the argument that Bradley took the championship rounds or Pac only fought the last minute of each round or the HBO crew called a bias fight or Bradley had injured ankles/feet. All excellent opinions but with no real reasoning or logic to them.

        I'd love to read a solid assessment of how Bradley actually won this fight. Clean punching (no), Power shots (no), Better Defence (surprisingly no), Effective aggression (50-50), Ring generalship (50-50). How did Timmy win this fight, please explain to me because 20 years of watching boxing I must be blinded by the Pac bandwagon.

        Keeping a safe distance, pawing the occasional jab and connecting with a body shot from time to time are not enough to win a fight imo. Pac landed the cleaner, harder punches, limited Bradley to a low connect %, and showed just as much effective aggression/ ring generalship. Why must the belt go to Bradley?

        He started slow, lost the first rounds, he closed bad and lost the champioship rounds. He was wild middle fight and made Bradley look bad but Bradley survived and Pac paid the price, gassed out by the end. Tactical error again, he is not that smart and that is why he has like 0 chances of beating Floyd.
        Last edited by Phantomas; 06-13-2012, 08:34 PM.

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          Originally posted by Phantomas View Post
          He started slow, lost the first rounds, he closed bad and lost the champioship rounds. He was wild middle fight and made Bradley look bad but Bradley survived and Pac paid the price, gassed out by the end. Tactical error again, he is not that smart and that is why he has like 0 chances of beating Floyd.
          I agree that this version of Pac (2010+) would not be the odds on favorite and I would favor Floyd at this point, but, that has nothing to do with my question. How did Bradley win the fight? I do not see any points in your explanation of how Bradley actually won the fight.

          In the first rounds and middle of the fight as you stated Pac lost. Manny still outlanded Bradley with clean, hard shots (hurting Timmy on several occasions) while displaying a better defence, effective aggression and ring generalship was a toss up so Pac should be favored to win a majority of the first 9 off effective punching alone.

          In the championship rounds Timmy did a good job of finally fighting even to Pac, but, did not run away with the rounds in dominating fashion. He merely was more effective down the stretch if you compared it to the first 9 rounds where Bradley did little to nothing.

          It's hard to score a fight for a guy who continually slap punched Pac's guard and gloves for majority of the fight. Took 2/3 of the fight to adjust and start landing the jab with an occasional body shot. Bradley did not display effective punching for most of the fight so how did he win?

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            Originally posted by PBP View Post
            Wooooowwww...A fuccin boxing match has just been compared to the raping of women.
            Phuckin apples & oranges. Not even gonna dignify that dumb shit with a response.

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              Originally posted by tripper View Post
              Why is there so much news on this, abril got well and truely robbed when he fought rios however after like one day nothing more got said, rhis has been going on for nearly a week. Robberys happen in boxing, it is **** but thats what happens, the only way to truely be sure is to knock someone out, so instead of taking your little bible classes , playing basket ball and singing badly in a band, get yourself in shape and be a ruthless knockout artist.

              Exactly the point I was trying to make, but some guys on here think that it's fair to compare boxing decisions to raping women. Not to mention the Cloud vs Campillo fight.
              Last edited by Merciless1; 06-13-2012, 10:42 PM.

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                Originally posted by KTFO View Post
                I agree that this version of Pac (2010+) would not be the odds on favorite and I would favor Floyd at this point, but, that has nothing to do with my question. How did Bradley win the fight? I do not see any points in your explanation of how Bradley actually won the fight.

                In the first rounds and middle of the fight as you stated Pac lost. Manny still outlanded Bradley with clean, hard shots (hurting Timmy on several occasions) while displaying a better defence, effective aggression and ring generalship was a toss up so Pac should be favored to win a majority of the first 9 off effective punching alone.

                In the championship rounds Timmy did a good job of finally fighting even to Pac, but, did not run away with the rounds in dominating fashion. He merely was more effective down the stretch if you compared it to the first 9 rounds where Bradley did little to nothing.

                It's hard to score a fight for a guy who continually slap punched Pac's guard and gloves for majority of the fight. Took 2/3 of the fight to adjust and start landing the jab with an occasional body shot. Bradley did not display effective punching for most of the fight so how did he win?
                I think Bradley dominated twelve easily, Pac did nothing, he was tired. First rounds Pac was kind of lost.

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                  Originally posted by Hindsight 20/10 View Post
                  Hey Grustler, been hearing that your boy Floyd hav'n a hard time doing time after only 12days of his 87. Guess Floyd didn't hear Martha Stewart did her 5 months and smiled. Ali did did 3yrs and still got back his belt.
                  My boy? Just because I like and respect his skills as a boxer don't make him "My boy" I already touched on the topic posting on another thread. I'm not a fanatic that cosigns everything a fighter does because he happens to be a favorite of mine. That's what separates the adults from the children.....

                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                  Floyd is too pampered. He should be doing 80 something days laying around, working out and clearing his mind getting ready for his return because it is just a blink away. Doing his bid makes it more legit. Dude beat 43 fighters with 26 KO's but can't do 2 weeks? I mean, jail is a crappy place to be but he put himself there. All that loud mouth talk and gangstas around him. He has mega money so now time to start acting like a rich, high profile celebrity. Leave 50Cent and start hanging around Tom Hanks or Brad Pitt... hell! Samuel Jackson, Denzel Washington EVEN Morgan Freeman. Dude want to flash money, be a loud mouth and talk tough outside of the sport well..... Jail is a possibility living like that. I respect Mayweather as a boxer/fighter but have no sympathy for a guy who makes double digit millions each time he fights but can't keep out of altercations and trouble. What is this guy trying to prove? Using all of that money to shield his insecurities. Bottom line is that Floyd Mayweather needs to clean up his act and get it together because if he is crying about a week and some change, imagine if he had to do 2 years? Dude would hang up. Stop fronting Floyd and focus on what made you great and leave the BS alone.

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                    Originally posted by KTFO View Post
                    You're facts seem a little off. To say that 90% of the boxing world felt Jmm won is an overstatement. I can recall quite a few people that cover the business who felt Pac won a close fight and yes, Jmm was favored as the majority winner but it seemed a lot closer than 90%. I thought it was a draw but you could have legitimately given either fighter 6-7 rounds. Again, there was a better argument for Jmm winning the 6-7 rounds and Pac winning 5-6 but thats why close fights with more than a few close rounds are hard to score. All the disown his people talk sounds like some serious spin doctor type of talk bro. What happened last saturday had no resemblance of Pac vs Jmm 3, it was an easy fight to score in Pac's favor. Very easy to score 8-9 rounds in Pac's favor.
                    TRUE but that still don't take away the fact that the majority of the sport of boxing thought Pac lost to JMM last November and felt that JMM was robbed and that's a pure fact. Find me one credible boxer/fighter who thought Pac won and I'll post 3x's more who said he didn't.

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                      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
                      The World Boxing Organization, led by Puerto Rico's President Francisco ‘Paco‘ Valcárcel, will have the organization's Championship Committee evaluate the controversial fight between Manny Pacquiao and Timothy Bradley, where Bradley captured the WBO's welterweight title with a split decision (113-115, 115-113, 115-113). The result has been highly protested all over the world.


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                      duh!!!..NOBODY who thinks straight expected the decision to be reversed...it is what it is!!!

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