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    Leonard defeated (KO ****zine)

    Benitez
    Duran
    Hearns
    Hagler


    all first ballot dudes

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      Is like comparing Hank with Bonds. The credit of the clean fighter is worth much much more.

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        Originally posted by dde91 View Post
        i think that there resumes are close but the ones who try to discredit Pacs wins are dumb
        i could easily say leonard
        1.) beat Duran because duran was weight drained (we hear this a lot when talked about pacs opponents
        2.)Benetiz wasn't in great shape
        3.)Hearns was robbed 2nd fight AND STAMINA ******
        4.)Waited til Hagler was past his prime to fight him
        5.)Hector Camacho beat him

        JUST A SARCASTIC POST TO SHOW HOW EASY IT IS TO PICK ON RESUMES HOW MOST OF YOU DO LOL
        No, unfortunately. The records and history speak for itself. Duran, Hagler, Hearns and Benitez didn't have a single loss between them that was within the past 8-9 years or so (the most recent being durans lone loss to dejesus) and avenged. The losses they did have between them all were 3. Between four fighters with hundreds of fights, decades of fighting and championship wins, they only had 3 losses between them all! Two of those early against Hagler in fights arguably won, both avenged multiple times by KO. Durans one loss also avenged twice by KO. So, those three losses were all avenge multiple times by KO too.

        Just think about that for a moment. They didnt have a single loss between them in 8 years and all their losses had been quite brutally avenged. Now, compare that to Pacs recent run of fighting opponents, considerd his best run ever with a combined record in their last four to five fights alone equaloff omething like 19-8-1.

        Same period for the Fab Four would be something like 30-0 and all as champions and top P4P fighters.

        It really doesn't compare.

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          Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
          Leonard had less fights, less experienced than Pacquiao.

          Pacquiao has come through much more adversity than Leonard and has great self-belief, more than Leonard.

          SRL missed out a few top contenders, Pryor being the main one.

          I have the Human Windmill in my top 3. They are great fighters from every generation including this one.
          Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
          See that's that ******ation I was talking about.

          And we see where your boxing knowledge comes to an end.

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            Pacquiao needs Mayweather and then you can start putting him in the argument with the TOP 10. First he has to beat Floyd in my opinion. It's a shame they can't even fight once, because it could have happened a few times if they produced a good fight. Leonard had some special rivalries.

            Pacquiao as it stands today...these things are very hard to measure, but he has to be in the top 20-30 hasn't he? I think I would struggle to name 30 fighters better than him, I think he is one of the fighters today who suffers from 12 round fights, he would have excelled even more over 15 rounds, Mayweather also.

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              Oh not this shyt again....

              Youre comparing apples and oranges.

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                Originally posted by rorymac View Post
                Dirk???

                Margarito - ATG chin, Hearns - weak chin.

                Hearns - unbelievable punching power and technique, ATG jab. Margarito - limited skill set.

                Hearns papped Duran and Cuevas among many other ATGs.


                Back to the original question: Pacquiao hasn't beaten anyone prime within a lightyear of Hearns, Hagler, Duran talent-wise. Morales was getting old, ODLH was shot, Hatton was past it and a mismatch, Pacquiao was given gift decisions against Marquez. Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Diaz... whatever. They'll be forgotten soon (maybe not Cotto) while the four horsemen will continue to be the greatest bunch of rivals in the history of the sport.
                what about Barrera? He was in his Prime on the top of his career and pac smashed him

                Nobody ever knocked Morales down in his career at that time and Pacquiao was able to knock him down and out.

                Clottey was in his prime

                Diaz was in his prime

                Cotto was in his prime. 1 loss doesn't make you out of your prime. if thats the case then Ortiz wasn't in his prime when Mayweather beat him because Maidana whooped his ass

                De La Hoya wasn't in his prime at all, but he was still De La Hoya and never been stopped.

                Margarito to me didn't even look differently then he did all the previous years. He looked like a vintage Margarito in his fight with pac.

                Mosley wasn't in his prime and Pac SHOULD of fought him a year before that so this win isn't a big credit to me, but he did knock him down and make him run.

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                  Hagler
                  Hearns
                  Duran
                  Benitez



                  How is this even up for debate???

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                    Originally posted by dde91 View Post
                    what about Barrera? He was in his Prime on the top of his career and pac smashed him

                    Nobody ever knocked Morales down in his career at that time and Pacquiao was able to knock him down and out.

                    Clottey was in his prime

                    Diaz was in his prime

                    Cotto was in his prime. 1 loss doesn't make you out of your prime. if thats the case then Ortiz wasn't in his prime when Mayweather beat him because Maidana whooped his ass

                    De La Hoya wasn't in his prime at all, but he was still De La Hoya and never been stopped.

                    Margarito to me didn't even look differently then he did all the previous years. He looked like a vintage Margarito in his fight with pac.

                    Mosley wasn't in his prime and Pac SHOULD of fought him a year before that so this win isn't a big credit to me, but he did knock him down and make him run.

                    Hopkins stopped him with a body punch.

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                      Originally posted by dde91 View Post
                      what about Barrera? He was in his Prime on the top of his career and pac smashed him

                      Nobody ever knocked Morales down in his career at that time and Pacquiao was able to knock him down and out.

                      Clottey was in his prime

                      Diaz was in his prime

                      Cotto was in his prime. 1 loss doesn't make you out of your prime. if thats the case then Ortiz wasn't in his prime when Mayweather beat him because Maidana whooped his ass

                      De La Hoya wasn't in his prime at all, but he was still De La Hoya and never been stopped.

                      Margarito to me didn't even look differently then he did all the previous years. He looked like a vintage Margarito in his fight with pac.

                      Mosley wasn't in his prime and Pac SHOULD of fought him a year before that so this win isn't a big credit to me, but he did knock him down and make him run.
                      I dont know where to start with this post.

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