Comments Thread For: Pacquiao on Mayweather-Cotto, Stands Firm on 50/50 Split

[hitking]

The truth is, both Mayweather and Pacquaio have reached a level of fame and popularity that they can actually make more money not fighting each other. Mayweather's proposal to Pac gave a glance as to how each have been ramming in the butt end of their opponents for awhile now. They basically guarantee their opponent a career high payday and pocket everything else. And when think that these guys are doing a million+ ppv buys every time out that they're not having to split, that's a lot of money.

In the end, if they do fight, its gonna have to be solely about competition. They are gonna have to truly wanna see who's the best of this era. And since both have consistantly said they don't need the other, I don't see it happening. Either way, I'm fine. Because as long as they don't fight each other, they're gonna have to one up the other with the opponents they fight instead. Mayweather had to move up and fight the best jr middleweight in the world. Pac is fighting a consensus P4P'r in Bradley. So I say to them never fight. Because outside of each other, what's next. One is gonna have to see Martinez. And we end up getting another superfight outta the deal.

[IronDanHamza]

glad you have established that. now back to the actual point, if floyd is his own boss, why are goldenboy even there? why isnt it just mayweather promotions?!

Was Bob Arum no longer the boss of Top Rank when he co-promoted with Golden Boy?

Or any time a promoter has worked with another promoter on an event?

[IMDAZED]

With Bob Arum no longer the boss of Top Rank when he co-promoted with Golden Boy?

Or any time a promoter has worked with another promoter on an event?

At 26, people should be mature enough to understand this.

[jcpryor]

glad you have established that. now back to the actual point, if floyd is his own boss, why are goldenboy even there? why isnt it just mayweather promotions?!

Paying a company a flat fee to promote your fights doesn't make you any less of 'your own boss'. Goldenboy most likely has a better infrastructure than he does at the moment to promote a fight to the level that he feels comfortable. The majority of the revenue still goes to Mayweather Promotions. The fact that Mayweather maximizes his profits by getting Goldenboy involved solidifies the fact that he's much smarter than you like to give him credit for and certainly a much better businessman.

Pacquiao could easily do the same if he wanted, but he isn't smart enough to realize that he's getting financially ****d by Bob Arum at the moment.

[shade darkar]

What does one have to do with the other? Are you implying that if you are a boss you can't work with anyone else? Think about it.

why would you work with a rival promoter?

why were goldenboy promoting the mayweather cotto fight?

[Twako]

similar ppv numbers. similar drawing power. pac even edges out floyd in the last fights. both p4p #1. should be 50-50. common sense. all other reasons are just duck excuses.

[hitking]

The only thing I dont understand is if it's a 50/50 fight why does one fighter (Mayweather) make almost double what the other guy (Pacquiao) makes everytime they fight. I mean it's clear who's the bread winner. I don't think it's 50/50, but more like 60/40. I mean they've both pretty much beat the same people. I don't care that one beat them worse, I don't see wear that matters.

Up until the JMM fight, Mayweather had consistantly outdone Pac in PPV with common opponents. But Pac-JMM 3 outdid Money-JMM, so the popularity deal seems to have leveled out. But to answer your question, Mayweather makes more money that Pac for a couple reasons. One, tickets and ppv suggested retail generally are priced higher than those for Pac. And secondly and most important, Mayweather is a promotional free agent who deals with GBP on a fight-by-fight basis. Opposed to Pac having a promotional contract with Arum that is probably screwing him outta all kinds of money. Those things add up. So its not that Mayweather is a bigger draw. Its just his business arrangement is a lot more solid than Pac's and allows him to pocket more of the revenue he generates.

[shade darkar]

All these discussionns about the money split and drug testing became moot when Floyd uttered two powerful words, "Self Preservation."

He's very adamant about not letting fans dictate who he fights. He said himself he's concerned about his health if he faces Pacman. For goodness sakes, this is boxing. Of course there are health risks. You should have chosen a different career if you can't take risks against the best.

What ever happened to "Pacquiao, you're next" and "take the test and you got a fight" comments? Now, it's no 50-50, it's Bob Arum's fault, I might retire again, etc. etc. It's one roadblock after another.

The only time Floyd sounds like he's serious about fighting Pacman is when he's promoting his next fight. Basically, he's using Pacman's name to sell his fights.

and this is utter............................truth.

[shade darkar]

Was Bob Arum no longer the boss of Top Rank when he co-promoted with Golden Boy?

Or any time a promoter has worked with another promoter on an event?

haha i didnt say that. what im asking is why would floyd get goldenboy in for the cotto fight.

[Wynnin]

Cause if they go 50/50 Floyd is losing money cause he invest HIS OWN MONEY into his fights! If PAC MAN invested his money (which he doesn't have) it could be a 50/50 split! Floyd was gnna wire him 20 mil of FLOYD'S own money to make the fight and that's more money than arum giving him for a fight! PAC man needs to wake up and stop getting robbed manny needs smarter people in his corner! Even his condition trainer Alex ariza or whatever said the bob is in the way so why do you ppl keep blaming Floyd