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    Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
    Doesn't his bio say that he beat Graham in his hometown but Graham gave him his toughest amateur fight?
    Nope pretty sure it goes into detail about the loss, will have to check again, Boxrec lists him as 85-2 if you want a source you can see if you don't have the bio, think it includes his loss to another Billy (Can't remember his surname of top of my head) can't find a legit source for that one though.

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      Originally posted by Larryx2011 View Post
      Manny isnt even in the top 10 resume wise man.damn do you hear me yalling out floyd??no.learn the damn sport there is more than manny and fucking floyd.manny doesnt even have the best resume of the last damn 20 years
      Exactly. In terms of names, Manny would probably be top 30, but you have to consider the circumstances of each particular fight. With this taken into account, he might be like top 60.

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        Originally posted by NChristo View Post
        Nope pretty sure it goes into detail about the loss, will have to check again, Boxrec lists him as 85-2 if you want a source you can see if you don't have the bio, think it includes his loss to another Billy (Can't remember his surname of top of my head) can't find a legit source for that one though.
        From what I remember, the bio that I have says he beat Graham but I'll check again as well.

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          Pac does have one of the best resumes of all time. He has the JMM, MOrales and Barreras, had 8 fights and only losing one of them.

          Plus he moved up so many weights and fought HOFs like Cotto, and Hatton and DLH and dominated. People say DLH was weight drained so Pac shouldnt get credit for beating a weight drained DLH. So how come after that fight, Pac has been made favourite for every fight? If the only reason he beat a past it, weight drained DLH why would Pac be automatic favourite against Hatton, Cotto etc etc? They made Pac underdog against DLH, but now he is favourite all the time. BH is underdog all the time as well now, even though he upset people. He wasnt supposed to beat Tarver, then he wasnt supposed to beat Pavlik. Then he werent supposed to beat Dawson. After Pac destroyed DLH people learnt real fast about Pac.

          Theres lot of excuses when it comes to Pac for real.

          Cos actions speak louder than excuses...... i mean words.
          Last edited by hugh grant; 04-28-2012, 05:05 PM.

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            Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
            Pac does have one of the best resumes of all time. He has the JMM, MOrales and Barreras, had 8 fights and only losing one of them.

            Plus he moved up so many weights and fought HOFs like Cotto, and Hatton and DLH and dominated. People say DLH was weight drained so Pac shouldnt get credit for beating a weight drained DLH. So how come after that fight, Pac has been made favourite for every fight? If the only reason he beat a past it, weight drained DLH why would Pac be automatic favourite against Hatton, Cotto etc etc? They made Pac underdog against DLH, but now he is favourite all the time. BH is underdog all the time as well now, even though he upset people. He wasnt supposed to beat Tarver, then he wasnt supposed to beat Pavlik. Then he werent supposed to beat Dawson.

            Theres lot of excuses when it comes to Pac for real.

            Cos actions speak louder than excuses...... i mean words.
            A valiant effort, but if you really believe Manny Pacquiao in the GOAT, let alone even in the Top 10 or 20, you're even more ****** than anyone else thought you were in the first place. Usually I'm not openly an a$$hole like this, but you deserve it for sure with some of the s**t you spit on here.

            Floyd or Manny are NEVER cracking the Top 10, unless they fight till their like 40 and keep beating every top fighter in their weight class. They can crack the Top 20 depending on how they finish their careers, though that will be a monumental task as well.

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              Originally posted by 4CornersKid View Post
              A valiant effort, but if you really believe Manny Pacquiao in the GOAT, let alone even in the Top 10 or 20, you're even more ****** than anyone else thought you were in the first place. Usually I'm not openly an a$$hole like this, but you deserve it for sure with some of the s**t you spit on here.

              Floyd or Manny are NEVER cracking the Top 10, unless they fight till their like 40 and keep beating every top fighter in their weight class. They can crack the Top 20 depending on how they finish their careers, though that will be a monumental task as well.
              Im not going to take youtoo seriously, cos every time i make a case for Pac having the greatest resume and doing things no one has done, you bring up Floyd. Im making no mention of Floyd here. Please dont mention Floyd he is totally irrelevant here.

              Whyd does Pac have to fight till 40? Hes beaten all he has beat. SRL was done by 32 and called it a day.

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                Ezzard Charles.

                Not quite the best resume in their but in the top 5;

                Archie Moore x3
                Charley Burley x2
                Jersey Joe Walcott x2
                Joe Louis
                Jimmy Bivins x4
                Joey Maxim x5
                Teddy Yarosz
                Lloyd Marshall x2
                Gus Lesnevich

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                  Originally posted by 4CornersKid View Post
                  Jack Johnson was a cherry picker, a duck. Okay.
                  Yes, he was.

                  He openly ducked Sam Langford when the time was right, when it mattered.

                  He ducked other fighters aswell.

                  And he's no where near the Top 10 ATG list. Not where near, not even close.

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                    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                    Im not going to take youtoo seriously, cos every time i make a case for Pac having the greatest resume and doing things no one has done, you bring up Floyd. Im making no mention of Floyd here. Please dont mention Floyd he is totally irrelevant here.

                    Whyd does Pac have to fight till 40? Hes beaten all he has beat. SRL was done by 32 and called it a day.
                    Because those are the two current ATG's of their era that are within range of the Top 30.

                    Are you seriously comparing Pacquiao to Ray??? This s**t never ends with you.

                    Ray beat prime versions of Hearns, Benitez, and Duran, and a past prime-still good Hagler at 160 moving up in weight.

                    Pac beat a prime Barrera, a past prime-still good Morales, and a past prime-still good Marquez in 08'. Add the fact that Pac has never beaten Marquez convincingly, on top of the fact that he only beat Morales after Raheem right before Pac-Morales II, it takes away slightly from the Morales win.

                    Ray Leonard is far greater than Pacquiao will ever be. Funny how you say "I'm not going to take you serious" when it's YOU that no one takes serious on here.

                    Have a good one Hugh......

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                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      Yes, he was.

                      He openly ducked Sam Langford when the time was right, when it mattered.

                      He ducked other fighters aswell.

                      And he's no where near the Top 10 ATG list. Not where near, not even close.
                      I agreed with him that Johnson avoided certain fighters, but he still has pretty good resume. That's all I was saying. That was far too long ago on this thread, now we're getting into Pacquiao is better than Ray Leonard all-time.

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