Gamboa vs Rios: Whose had the tougher opponents?

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Poll included, lets break it down. With the big fight looming just 44 days away, I want to know in your opinion who has fought the tougher opposition. I will post the 5 most notable wins of each fighter including their record they had at the time that they fought (Not their current record) and compare them, and I want you to give me your thoughts about the comparisons.

Yuriorkis Gamboa 21(16) L0 D0
1. Daniel Ponce De Leon W41 L3 D0
2. Orlando Salido W34 L10 D2
3. Jonathan Victor Barros W28 L0 D1
4. Jorge Solis W40 L2 D2
5. Rogers Mtagwa W26 L13 D2

Brandon Rios 29(22) L0 D1
1. Miguel Acosta W28 L3 D2
2. Anthony Peterson W30 L0 D0
3. Urbano Antillon W28 L2 D0
4. John Murray W31 L1 D0
5. Jorge Luis Teron W23 L1 D1

Okay So lets get started.

1: Ponce De Leon vs Miguel Acosta, IMHO I feel that Rios clearly had the tougher opponent here. Ponce De Leon has devastating KO power for his weight and is very awkward (which could be a good thing but also a bad thing) but isn't very skilled. His abilities are adequate but fall short in comparison to Acosta, who has both great speed and power, and the skills to boot. In fact, if I recall correctly most people were giving the edge to Acosta to beat Rios, saying that he would "expose" Rios, but obviously in the end it didn't turn out that way.

Edge: Rios

2: Orlando Salido vs Anthony Peterson, Again to be honest, I have to give the edge to Rios. Orlando Salido is a grizzled veteran who can give anybody a tough test, but doesn't have the same skillset that some one such as Anthony Peterson has. AP, younger brother of Lamont Peterson was going into this fight undefeated with a 62% KO average. So in essence, Peterson is another good SKILLED opponent who also has adequate power. This was a HUGE risk fight for Rios and he dominated the fight and ultimately won by DQ as Peterson kept hitting low.

Edge Rios

3: Jonathan Victor Barros vs Urbano Antillon, this is more difficult for me to call because I don't know much about JVB, only that he was an undefeated Argentine fighter at the time of this fight. Urbano on the other hand, I have seen him fight plenty and know that although he is a very tough fighter, a typical come forward and demolish type of Mexican fighter, he doesn't posses a high skill level. I was going to call this even, but for the sake of keeping this thing interesting I'll go ahead and just give the edge to Gamboa for this one but I really don't know, YOU be the judge.

Edge Gamboa

4. John Murray vs Jorge Solis, here we have two solid opponents who can test ANY young rising star. John Murray is sort of the British version of Rios, who comes forward nonstop and punches with bad intentions. Jorge Solis is a veteran slugger who packs a decent punch and always keeps you busy. In this case I'm going to analyze the result of the fights: It took Eleven rounds for Rios to stop Murray, and it took only 4 rounds for Gamboa to Knock out Solis. Now let's look at the momentum these opponents had going into their respective fights. Murray was just coming off of an 8 round TKO loss going into a fight with Rios, while Solis was coming off of a 3 fight winning streak going into his fight with Gamboa... not too bad I guess. Easily imo Gamboa fought the better opponent in this case.

Edge Gamboa

5. Rogers Mtagwa vs Jorge Luis Teron, these are the weakest opponents out of the 5 notable fights, and I think this can easily be seen as just even. Rogers Mtagwa is a tough African fighter (get used to seeing those) from Tanzania who always comes to fight. He gave Juan Manuel Lopez a tough fight and very telling fight (not so good for Juanma...), and has generally been in a series of good fights (most notably his fight with Tomas Villa on the Solo Boxeo series) but doesn't have what it takes on the bigger stage. Jorge Luis Teron on the other hand was supposed to be a promising young Puerto Rican American prospect with decent speed and power, but once he stepped up he was quickly subdued. Easily IMO this is even

Edge even :\


So there you have it, Rios and Gamboa are pretty much evenly matched in terms of the opposition they've fought, at least imo anyway, but feel free to do your own fight for fight comparison and please tell me who u think fought the better opposition.

This is my first thread... I'm way too excited for this fight

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Let me ask you this,how many wins the caliber of Salido's win over Lopez does Peterson have?

And how many wins the caliber of PDL's win over Broner does Acosta have?

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Let me ask you this,how many wins the caliber of Salido's win over Lopez does Peterson have?

And how many wins the caliber of PDL's win over Broner does Acosta have?

DPDL beat Broner?

I could see where your getting at, I still think Acosta was the better win considering the circumstances: Salido not being 100% in his fight with Gamboa.

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Poll included, lets break it down. With the big fight looming just 44 days away, I want to know in your opinion who has fought the tougher opposition. I will post the 5 most notable wins of each fighter including their record they had at the time that they fought (Not their current record) and compare them, and I want you to give me your thoughts about the comparisons.

Yuriorkis Gamboa 21(16) L0 D0
1. Daniel Ponce De Leon W41 L3 D0
2. Orlando Salido W34 L10 D2
3. Jonathan Victor Barros W28 L0 D1
4. Jorge Solis W40 L2 D2
5. Rogers Mtagwa W26 L13 D2

Brandon Rios 29(22) L0 D1
1. Miguel Acosta W28 L3 D2
2. Anthony Peterson W30 L0 D0
3. Urbano Antillon W28 L2 D0
4. John Murray W31 L1 D0
5. Jorge Luis Teron W23 L1 D1

Okay So lets get started.

1: Ponce De Leon vs Miguel Acosta, IMHO I feel that Rios clearly had the tougher opponent here. Ponce De Leon has devastating KO power for his weight and is very awkward (which could be a good thing but also a bad thing) but isn't very skilled. His abilities are adequate but fall short in comparison to Acosta, who has both great speed and power, and the skills to boot. In fact, if I recall correctly most people were giving the edge to Acosta to beat Rios, saying that he would "expose" Rios, but obviously in the end it didn't turn out that way.

Edge: Rios

2: Orlando Salido vs Anthony Peterson, Again to be honest, I have to give the edge to Rios. Orlando Salido is a grizzled veteran who can give anybody a tough test, but doesn't have the same skillset that some one such as Anthony Peterson has. AP, younger brother of Lamont Peterson was going into this fight undefeated with a 62% KO average. So in essence, Peterson is another good SKILLED opponent who also has adequate power. This was a HUGE risk fight for Rios and he dominated the fight and ultimately won by DQ as Peterson kept hitting low.

Edge Rios

3: Jonathan Victor Barros vs Urbano Antillon, this is more difficult for me to call because I don't know much about JVB, only that he was an undefeated Argentine fighter at the time of this fight. Urbano on the other hand, I have seen him fight plenty and know that although he is a very tough fighter, a typical come forward and demolish type of Mexican fighter, he doesn't posses a high skill level. I was going to call this even, but for the sake of keeping this thing interesting I'll go ahead and just give the edge to Gamboa for this one but I really don't know, YOU be the judge.

Edge Gamboa

4. John Murray vs Jorge Solis, here we have two solid opponents who can test ANY young rising star. John Murray is sort of the British version of Rios, who comes forward nonstop and punches with bad intentions. Jorge Solis is a veteran slugger who packs a decent punch and always keeps you busy. In this case I'm going to analyze the result of the fights: It took Eleven rounds for Rios to stop Murray, and it took only 4 rounds for Gamboa to Knock out Solis. Now let's look at the momentum these opponents had going into their respective fights. Murray was just coming off of an 8 round TKO loss going into a fight with Rios, while Solis was coming off of a 3 fight winning streak going into his fight with Gamboa... not too bad I guess. Easily imo Gamboa fought the better opponent in this case.

Edge Gamboa

5. Rogers Mtagwa vs Jorge Luis Teron, these are the weakest opponents out of the 5 notable fights, and I think this can easily be seen as just even. Rogers Mtagwa is a tough African fighter (get used to seeing those) from Tanzania who always comes to fight. He gave Juan Manuel Lopez a tough fight and very telling fight (not so good for Juanma...), and has generally been in a series of good fights (most notably his fight with Tomas Villa on the Solo Boxeo series) but doesn't have what it takes on the bigger stage. Jorge Luis Teron on the other hand was supposed to be a promising young Puerto Rican American prospect with decent speed and power, but once he stepped up he was quickly subdued. Easily IMO this is even

Edge even :\


So there you have it, Rios and Gamboa are pretty much evenly matched in terms of the opposition they've fought, at least imo anyway, but feel free to do your own fight for fight comparison and please tell me who u think fought the better opposition.

This is my first thread... I'm way too excited for this fight

Gamboa too skillful for Rios moves too fast for Rios to hit effectively

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DPDL beat Broner?

I could see where your getting at, I still think Acosta was the better win considering the circumstances: Salido not being 100% in his fight with Gamboa.

Yes he did even though he didn't get the decision(and I'm a big Broner fan).

100% or not Gamboa beats Salido probably easy enough either way.

IMO the yahve the same caliber of oppsition but with Gamboa slightly beter.

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DPDL beat Broner?

I could see where your getting at, I still think Acosta was the better win considering the circumstances: Salido not being 100% in his fight with Gamboa.

Yes he did even though he didn't get the decision(and I'm a big Broner fan).

100% or not Salido lost and lost badly.And he wouldn't put to much trouble to Gamboa either way.

IMO their opposition level is about the same with Gamboa having the slightly better opposition.

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Gamboa too skillful for Rios moves too fast for Rios to hit effectively

could very well be the case. But I think Rios will eventually land a good strike, and once he does, Gamboa will be effected both physically and mentally.

People have to keep in mind that Rios isn't just strong physically, he's also one of the strongest fighters in the game MENTALLY, so I hear anyway, and so he's a tough fighter that cannot be discouraged. And that in itselft can mentally effect his opponent, who keeps landing hard shots flush and Rios keeps coming and occasionally landing even harder punches.

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Yes he did even though he didn't get the decision(and I'm a big Broner fan).

100% or not Salido lost and lost badly.And he wouldn't put to much trouble to Gamboa either way.

IMO their opposition level is about the same with Gamboa having the slightly better opposition.

damn I gotta go rewatch Ponce-Broner

And yeah I think your right, Salido wouldn't be a problem for Gamboa eitherway. I also agree that they are pretty much even opposition wise, but I would not give a slight edge to Gamboa.

Gamboa-Rios is going to be their best fight and whoever wins deserves a spot in the top 10 P4P imo

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Maybe top 10 p4p is a bit much aswell.

If Rios dominates it's gonna be said he beat a blown up FW.

If Gamboa dominates it's gonna be said he beat a weight drained LW.

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Maybe top 10 p4p is a bit much aswell.

If Rios dominates it's gonna be said he beat a blown up FW.

If Gamboa dominates it's gonna be said he beat a weight drained LW.

but look whose on the P4P list right now... what you got Donaire in there and Timothy Bradley, what did they do or who did they beat to get on there?? Nonito arguably made a name for himself dominating smaller men. And timothy? smh I don't even need to say it.

the fact that Gamboa is willing to move up two weightclasses to fight a strong opponent like Rios, and Rios willing to once again practically kill himself to make 135 for a fight with a world class opponent like Gamboa automatically imo makes the winner one of the BEST.

But perhaps I am a little too over excited