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    No one dominated Pac when he was weight drained, and dont mention Singsurrate which happened so long ago, when Pac didnt know how to box, and Pac was still competive, yet the CW is the sole reason Pac totally dominated Cotto in some haters eyes.

    Cotto said Pac was the best fighter he ever faced. Maybe that was the reason Cotto lost like he did.

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      Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
      Smarten up.

      And perhaps at least do some research, if you clearly have no idea what you are talking about......

      This past Sunday on GMANews.TV, Manny Pacquiao said he knows exactly what Miguel Cotto is going through trying to get down to weight the week before the fight. Pacquiao went as far as to say that having been in a similar situation himself, the weight reduction is going to play a crucial role in the outcome of the fight.

      Manny stated that along with trying to sweat off the weight, Cotto will be reducing his caloric intake to make the 145 catch-weight limit stipulated in the fight contract. And he knows that effort will be very demanding on Miguel.

      Outside of having your relatives referee and score your fight, there's no more sure way to compromise a fighter and help alter the outcome of it than beating him on the scale. Bringing a fighter down in weight if it's a struggle affects everything he does in the ring in a bad way.

      Pacquiao's failure to make weight resulted in him losing his WBC flyweight title to Medgoen Singsurat when he was knocked out in the third round 10 years ago. He also had a difficult time making the 130-pound limit for his rematch with Juan Manuel Marquez in March of 2008, a fight in which some observers believe the split decision verdict in his favor could have just as easily gone to Marquez.

      A little over a week out from the fight Pacquiao says he weighs between 148 and 149. So much for him being the smaller fighter next to Cotto.

      The catch-weight of 145 for Pacquiao-Cotto has been a topic of fierce debate since the bout was signed. One side of the argument is that Cotto is too big and should meet Pacquiao somewhere below the welterweight limit of 147 to make it more fair. The opposing side asks why Cotto has to put his WBO welterweight title on the line and not be allowed to weigh the maximum the division allows.

      To those who believe Cotto isn't at a slight disadvantage coming in at 145 Manny Pacquiao says you're wrong. And if making 145 isn't a big deal for Cotto why has he never fought below 146 since moving up to welterweight?

      A sure sign of a fighter who struggles getting down to weight is the one who usually weighs in right at the division limit or a half to a full pound below it. Jake LaMotta barely made middleweight before and during his reign as middleweight champ. I trained with former light heavyweight champ Dwight Muhammad Qawi - and making 175 was always a struggle for him, evidenced by him always coming in right at the light heavyweight limit or a half a pound under it once he won and defended the title.

      Then there's the other side where fighters like Marvin Hagler often made the middleweight limit by 2/3 pounds. And the same applied to Michael Spinks making the light heavyweight limit of 175. Both Hagler and Spinks breezed to make weight and always came in under the division limit.

      Miguel Cotto has been weighing in between 146 and 147 since he outgrew the junior welterweight division. That's a testament indicating making the 147 pound limit isn't easy for him and it requires a lot just for him to do that.

      Making 145 isn't the issue concerning Cotto; there's no doubt he'll be able to do that. And it wouldn't be a shock, at least not here, if he in fact came in at 144 being that's he's probably been consumed with how much he weighs during his preparation for the fight. The question is will he be his best and the same fighter who fought Mosley, Margarito and Clottey? And no one knows the answer to that.

      One thing we do know is Cotto won't be better at 145 or 144.5 for Pacquiao than he was at 146 for the three previous mentioned fights. These two fighters are almost the same size and it wouldn't be the least bit surprising if when they get into the ring Saturday night that Pacquiao looks like the bigger fighter.

      Anyone who has ever been around a fighter who's trying to cut weight knows it's not a pretty sight. There's only so much spit, waste and sweat in their body. And there's a good chance that that will compromise Cotto. Which doesn't mean Pacquiao wouldn't have won the fight even if Cotto came in at 146/147, if he does.

      However, those two pounds that Cotto has to lose will affect him more than the 147 he could've carried would've harmed Pacquiao. If losing unnatural weight hurt Pacquiao against Singsurat and Marquez, then it's a fair point Cotto may be hurt trying to cut the extra pound to fight him.

      Of course it'll be argued that Pacquiao had to cut weight because he was still growing, and that's a legit point. But on the other hand, Cotto has already flowered and is very vulnerable to being a little depleted at 145 at this stage of his career.

      Does the catch-weight clause of 145 mean Pacquiao shouldn't receive all due props if he wins? No. Pacquiao supporters will argue it made no difference and he's just the greater fighter. Whereas Cotto's fans will be emphatic that the catch-weight was the main reason Miguel lost if he does. Either way it'll be overstated.

      But it's an undeniable truth that Pacquiao will not be confronting the same fighter in Cotto that fought Mosley and Margarito.
      i know the issue with making weight, wrestlers have the same problem, in fact, one guy at the boxing gym i go to clams he pretty much ate nothing to drop weight, he lost like 15 pounds in a couple weeks

      but really if cotto had problems, its his fault for taking that fight, he knew the risks he was taking, so with problems regarding weight is just part of the sport, but all this catchweight stuff is kinda bs considering that in the old days of boxing that didn't even exist

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        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        No one dominated Pac when he was weight drained, and dont mention Singsurrate which happened so long ago, when Pac didnt know how to box, and Pac was still competive, yet the CW is the sole reason Pac totally dominated Cotto in some haters eyes.

        Cotto said Pac was the best fighter he ever faced. Maybe that was the reason Cotto lost like he did.
        I will not sacrifice my body like that again for Manny said Cotto .

        Pac wanted to fight Cotto , Migeul said yes but no CW and Manny runs of to the 140 pounders lol .

        What part of that dont you get kiddo ? you dont get any wiser do you , I remember all the crap you used to write while dangling from Hattons nuts , took a long while to get over that didnt it , now your hanging onto your next big Floyd beater lol so pathetic when you follow the history lol .

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          Originally posted by b morph View Post
          i know the issue with making weight, wrestlers have the same problem, in fact, one guy at the boxing gym i go to clams he pretty much ate nothing to drop weight, he lost like 15 pounds in a couple weeks

          but really if cotto had problems, its his fault for taking that fight, he knew the risks he was taking, so with problems regarding weight is just part of the sport, but all this catchweight stuff is kinda bs considering that in the old days of boxing that didn't even exist
          Its a tough game , the big money is in the big fights thats why Cotto took the fight , he is a fighter they all think they can make the weight untill they have to , they dont get to practice weight making , you get the one shot at making it on the day before the fight , never is your body exactly the same from fight to fight , so if you except a lighter weight its a risk , obviously the money and promoter was enough to take the risk .

          Having said that it doesnt make Pac the good guy for forcing an advantage or NO fight , its a hollow win when you must force something like this to win , he proved his stance on Cotto by again refusing to fight him without a CW , so in reality it might be a win on the resume paper but Pac has NOT beat Cotto fair and square !

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            Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
            Sugar Ray Robinson wasnt undefeated Ali wasnt..Norton wasnt ....SRL wasnt ...Joe Louis wasnt...
            A 0 doeasnt make a fighter great. Any one with a brain a knowledge of the sport knows this.
            JCCjr is undefeated...Calzaghe was Undefeated...Mayweather is and what...thats special? LOL Why didnt he get fighter of the decade? Hes only got fighter of the year once ...Manny ..lol 3 times! hehheeee


            They can't stand it! Damn you Floyd Mayweather!

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              Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
              Its a tough game , the big money is in the big fights thats why Cotto took the fight , he is a fighter they all think they can make the weight untill they have to , they dont get to practice weight making , you get the one shot at making it on the day before the fight , never is your body exactly the same from fight to fight , so if you except a lighter weight its a risk , obviously the money and promoter was enough to take the risk .

              Having said that it doesnt make Pac the good guy for forcing an advantage or NO fight , its a hollow win when you must force something like this to win , he proved his stance on Cotto by again refusing to fight him without a CW , so in reality it might be a win on the resume paper but Pac has NOT beat Cotto fair and square !
              yea i know, either way it would've been unfair, pac can't go past a certain weight cuz then he's gonna lose cuz his opponents would be too big for him, plain and simple, but yea i just got interested in this sport maybe 3 years ago, theres a lot of things that go on behind the scenes, a lot of stuff to pay attention to in order to stay informed

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                Originally posted by SirChaelSonnen View Post
                It's everyone else that big's up Pacquiao bro, none of dat talk is coming from his mouth.
                The only major FRAUD in world boxing is Money Mayweather. Ask anyone that has fought both Manny and Floyd and they'll all tell you Manny has the harder punches.
                Now, ya'll will say this is because Floyd ****** them first, so Manny finished them. But nah man, if any of you ****** boys ever left your yard once in a while and had a few fights n dat or if your a boxer, then you'd know that if you took one major beating onetime, it doesn't all of a sudden hurt a hell of a lot more you take a beating again by a weaker geezer...
                Like i say Oscar knows what Floyd is, even Timothy Bradley said Floyds scared to fight Manny! actually so did his ****in dad, said he's scared for Floyds life if he fights Manny, ''cos he's on steroids' lol

                Anyway, Manny was poor in his last fight and doesn't deserve so much hype, and Floyd cheated in his last fight but thought it was perfectly fair lol.
                He'll never change, he should carry on beating his gal, is second to boxing as to what he does best no?
                Newsflash: NO ONE reads all of this.

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                  I thought pacquaio cotto was all one way. It was very one sided and looked like cotto did not deserve to spar with pacquaio it was a sad one sided affair.

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                    Originally posted by street bully View Post
                    I thought pacquaio cotto was all one way. It was very one sided and looked like cotto did not deserve to spar with pacquaio it was a sad one sided affair.
                    I don't agree brother. The first 4-5 rounds except the rd 4 knockdown it was very competitive. It was after the 5th that Cotto started falling off, imo.

                    I want Miguel to very much KO Floyd but it would be a lucky punch that got through if it did happen. Even with all of Cotto's boxing experience and new techniques learned from Diaz, it is Floyds speed that needs to be nullified to get the win, IMHO.

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                      Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                      I will not sacrifice my body like that again for Manny said Cotto ..

                      What part of that dont you get kiddo ?.
                      Stop dreaming, im sure right after the fight Cotto said Pac was the best fighter he ever fought and not not best i ever fought with a CW.

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