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    #31
    Hard not to like Freddie Roach. He was such a tough gritty fighter and you see the same style in the way he coaches.

    Parkinsons has really taken a lot away from his life but you can see how boxing is keeping him of sound mind.

    When he said that when he can't do the mitts he will stop training, I know that will be the day he dies because boxing is everything to him.

    Can't help but really like and respect Roach. He is what is good in boxing and it's refreshing to see that instead of the typical stuff you get from the Mayweather's and the way they conduct themselves.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502 View Post
      Hard not to like Freddie Roach. He was such a tough gritty fighter and you see the same style in the way he coaches.

      Parkinsons has really taken a lot away from his life but you can see how boxing is keeping him of sound mind.

      When he said that when he can't do the mitts he will stop training, I know that will be the day he dies because boxing is everything to him.

      Can't help but really like and respect Roach. He is what is good in boxing and it's refreshing to see that instead of the typical stuff you get from the Mayweather's and the way they conduct themselves.

      i sadly agree.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Bombs View Post
        Best Episode of ANYTHING I have ever seen in my life. That was amazing. Almost broke down in tears watching it. Touching stuff. **** I will die a Manny and Freddie roach fan man. Fan for ever.
        Well.. I agree that it was an emotionally powerful episode.
        I mean come on... if you don't feel for the guy it's because you hate him because his relationship with Pacquiao and Arum.

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          #34
          Originally posted by P4P_No1 View Post
          Weren't that to do with some people not calling back about an interview or some **** & Roach was just mad at them. Then got kinda pissy with the assistant because she was trying to contact them?

          Good episode though; look forward to the next one.
          Roach was an ass to his assistant/ex-gf & his gf.

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            #35
            Never disliked Roach despite some of the ridiculous comments he makes on occasion, very good epi btw. Shot beautifully and it flowed really well without spending too much time on any particular scene.

            Still quite sad about his illness especially the part where he was wrapping Khan's hands and was shaking profusely. Thankfully he found solace in becoming a trainer after boxing. Also admirable is the fact that he doesn't let his illness consume him and still loves what he does.
            Last edited by Phil Ivey; 01-23-2012, 11:53 AM.

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              #36
              If you're going to interview or document some one's life and times, ask the questions that EVERYONE is asking ... not just the soft touches.

              I hope one of the episodes asks Roach about his past dealings with fighters who he knew were using steroids. The man has claimed in interviews that he knows nothing about PEDs. Yet he's been involved in past scandals.

              People like Larry Merchant have no problem asking guys like Mayweather or Hopkins the "hard questions". When is someone going to start asking these clowns who obviously enjoy the face time and the platform to sound off the hard questions?

              They need to ask things like:

              Why in Pacquiao's last fight against Marquez did no one ask him why he has refused to take tests for 3 years? Why did no one ask Roach why, as trainer of the year, he had no Plan B for Khan? Why hasn't anyone asked world class conditioning coach Alex Ariza why Pacquiao still has cramping issues? Is Ariza really world class or does he just facilitate the plausible deniability for Team Pacquiao? What world class trainer is not aware of what his prize pupil is putting into his body????

              Are Roach and Pacquiao beyond reproach?

              Freddie's message is clear: "Don't feel sorry for me." Yet this guy goes on camera to capture him doing various arbitrary activities while shaking and slurring the entire time.

              I ask "WTF does this have to do with boxing"?

              Some will think that what I am saying is rude or unkind, but it is truthful.

              Freddie Roach is using the same tactics that Bob Arum used to promote Manny Pacquiao.

              The producers of the show and Roach himself are using Roach's Parkinsons to soften the perception and expectations of Roach as a world class trainer.

              Arum did the same thing when he kept citing the fact that Pacquiao was "so so small" and that every unsporting advantage that Pacquiao sought (catchweights, vacant titles, choosing men coming off losses). Nearly everything Pacquiao did was supposed to be excused because he was a "little guy with heart who supposedly took great chances by moving up against MUCH MUCH bigger men".

              See how the soft touch wording changes the perception of what really happened?

              They would have you believe that Roach is some genius who can work miracles despite not being able to even work the mitts for even 3 minutes. Ever notice that the clips of Roach in the ring are never more than 30 seconds long?

              I love boxing, but "On Freddie Roach" is nothing more than an attempt to make Roach seem more significant in the sport than he really ever was. It’s an attempt to make him seem grand in his sickly state so that when he exits the sport he will seem all the more noble for his troubles.

              I'm simply waiting for the hard questions to be asked ... sick or not. Roach and Pacquiao are the two most protected commodities in boxing today. They are shielded from top competition and they are shielded from the tough questions.

              And that's no conspiracy.

              If those two were really put to their cards, they would fold. They would have to. That's why this "On Freddie Roach" show is such a boon to Freddie and Pacquiao.

              It allows them to be seen but without them having to explain why Pacquiao still has not lived up to the terms of the Mayweather fight, why he cannot fight in May due to a cut he suffered last year, his finances, his infidelity or his demotion on the P4P list.

              Teflon I tell ya.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Brother Jay View Post
                If you're going to interview or document some one's life and times, ask the questions that EVERYONE is asking ... not just the soft touches.

                I hope one of the episodes asks Roach about his past dealings with fighters who he knew were using steroids. The man has claimed in interviews that he knows nothing about PEDs. Yet he's been involved in past scandals.

                People like Larry Merchant have no problem asking guys like Mayweather or Hopkins the "hard questions". When is someone going to start asking these clowns who obviously enjoy the face time and the platform to sound off the hard questions?

                They need to ask things like:

                Why in Pacquiao's last fight against Marquez did no one ask him why he has refused to take tests for 3 years? Why did no one ask Roach why, as trainer of the year, he had no Plan B for Khan? Why hasn't anyone asked world class conditioning coach Alex Ariza why Pacquiao still has cramping issues? Is Ariza really world class or does he just facilitate the plausible deniability for Team Pacquiao? What world class trainer is not aware of what his prize pupil is putting into his body????

                Are Roach and Pacquiao beyond reproach?

                Freddie's message is clear: "Don't feel sorry for me." Yet this guy goes on camera to capture him doing various arbitrary activities while shaking and slurring the entire time.

                I ask "WTF does this have to do with boxing"?

                Some will think that what I am saying is rude or unkind, but it is truthful.

                Freddie Roach is using the same tactics that Bob Arum used to promote Manny Pacquiao.

                The producers of the show and Roach himself are using Roach's Parkinsons to soften the perception and expectations of Roach as a world class trainer.

                Arum did the same thing when he kept citing the fact that Pacquiao was "so so small" and that every unsporting advantage that Pacquiao sought (catchweights, vacant titles, choosing men coming off losses). Nearly everything Pacquiao did was supposed to be excused because he was a "little guy with heart who supposedly took great chances by moving up against MUCH MUCH bigger men".

                See how the soft touch wording changes the perception of what really happened?

                They would have you believe that Roach is some genius who can work miracles despite not being able to even work the mitts for even 3 minutes. Ever notice that the clips of Roach in the ring are never more than 30 seconds long?

                I love boxing, but "On Freddie Roach" is nothing more than an attempt to make Roach seem more significant in the sport than he really ever was. It’s an attempt to make him seem grand in his sickly state so that when he exits the sport he will seem all the more noble for his troubles.

                I'm simply waiting for the hard questions to be asked ... sick or not. Roach and Pacquiao are the two most protected commodities in boxing today. They are shielded from top competition and they are shielded from the tough questions.

                And that's no conspiracy.

                If those two were really put to their cards, they would fold. They would have to. That's why this "On Freddie Roach" show is such a boon to Freddie and Pacquiao.

                It allows them to be seen but without them having to explain why Pacquiao still has not lived up to the terms of the Mayweather fight, why he cannot fight in May due to a cut he suffered last year, his finances, his infidelity or his demotion on the P4P list.

                Teflon I tell ya.
                Do you not understand the difference between doing a mino documentary on Roach and an in depth interview?

                This isn't some interview on Roach, it's just a day in the life of what he does and who he is. It's not some 20/20 piece trying to expose something you have created in your mind.

                LOL.man the IQ in this place is amazing.

                Sit back and enjoy the program, if you want to put Roach on trial, that is not the forum to do it.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Brother Jay View Post
                  If you're going to interview or document some one's life and times, ask the questions that EVERYONE is asking ... not just the soft touches.

                  I hope one of the episodes asks Roach about his past dealings with fighters who he knew were using steroids. The man has claimed in interviews that he knows nothing about PEDs. Yet he's been involved in past scandals.

                  People like Larry Merchant have no problem asking guys like Mayweather or Hopkins the "hard questions". When is someone going to start asking these clowns who obviously enjoy the face time and the platform to sound off the hard questions?

                  They need to ask things like:

                  Why in Pacquiao's last fight against Marquez did no one ask him why he has refused to take tests for 3 years? Why did no one ask Roach why, as trainer of the year, he had no Plan B for Khan? Why hasn't anyone asked world class conditioning coach Alex Ariza why Pacquiao still has cramping issues? Is Ariza really world class or does he just facilitate the plausible deniability for Team Pacquiao? What world class trainer is not aware of what his prize pupil is putting into his body????

                  Are Roach and Pacquiao beyond reproach?

                  Freddie's message is clear: "Don't feel sorry for me." Yet this guy goes on camera to capture him doing various arbitrary activities while shaking and slurring the entire time.

                  I ask "WTF does this have to do with boxing"?

                  Some will think that what I am saying is rude or unkind, but it is truthful.

                  Freddie Roach is using the same tactics that Bob Arum used to promote Manny Pacquiao.

                  The producers of the show and Roach himself are using Roach's Parkinsons to soften the perception and expectations of Roach as a world class trainer.

                  Arum did the same thing when he kept citing the fact that Pacquiao was "so so small" and that every unsporting advantage that Pacquiao sought (catchweights, vacant titles, choosing men coming off losses). Nearly everything Pacquiao did was supposed to be excused because he was a "little guy with heart who supposedly took great chances by moving up against MUCH MUCH bigger men".

                  See how the soft touch wording changes the perception of what really happened?

                  They would have you believe that Roach is some genius who can work miracles despite not being able to even work the mitts for even 3 minutes. Ever notice that the clips of Roach in the ring are never more than 30 seconds long?

                  I love boxing, but "On Freddie Roach" is nothing more than an attempt to make Roach seem more significant in the sport than he really ever was. It’s an attempt to make him seem grand in his sickly state so that when he exits the sport he will seem all the more noble for his troubles.

                  I'm simply waiting for the hard questions to be asked ... sick or not. Roach and Pacquiao are the two most protected commodities in boxing today. They are shielded from top competition and they are shielded from the tough questions.

                  And that's no conspiracy.

                  If those two were really put to their cards, they would fold. They would have to. That's why this "On Freddie Roach" show is such a boon to Freddie and Pacquiao.

                  It allows them to be seen but without them having to explain why Pacquiao still has not lived up to the terms of the Mayweather fight, why he cannot fight in May due to a cut he suffered last year, his finances, his infidelity or his demotion on the P4P list.

                  Teflon I tell ya.
                  Really???? Look, we're talking about a show on his life. If you don't care for it than simply change the channel. There are plenty of topics that relate for you to B**** about. LOL!

                  Anyhow, ironic that boxing help cause the disease yet helps him deal with it. Thanks for posting. Please post new episodes as that become available.
                  Last edited by tailchaser001; 01-23-2012, 12:28 PM.

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                    #39
                    It was nice learning some more about Roach but my favorite part is when the chick flashes her ****. Ohhhh Yeaaaaah!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502 View Post
                      Do you not understand the difference between doing a mino documentary on Roach and an in depth interview?

                      This isn't some interview on Roach, it's just a day in the life of what he does and who he is. It's not some 20/20 piece trying to expose something you have created in your mind.

                      LOL.man the IQ in this place is amazing.

                      Sit back and enjoy the program, if you want to put Roach on trial, that is not the forum to do it.
                      So what would be the correct forum in which to have Roach or Pacquiao simply answer the hard questions?

                      I simply stated that having a Q&A with Roach would have been 100 times more interesting than having him him parade around showing the world how well he's coping with his disease. Simply answering 5 questions without dodging or deflecting would make for better TV than the 30 minute Parkinson's Disease "mino(?) documentary" HBO aired.

                      Being such an authority on IQs, you should have known that was what I was trying to convey.

                      This was no better than putting Muhammad Ali on TV to see how he spends a day. The difference being that Ali was really great at something at some point and so his story is worth telling.

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