If floyd didn't retire instead he fights and beat cotto and margarito...

[The Gambler1981]

Mosley isn't some amazing fighter overall~ you could see all the flaws that got exposed going back to the second Oscar fight, through Forrest, Winky, Vargas somewhat, Cotto and even Mayorga which he really should have dominated much more if you look at the big rounds he won when they fought.


Mosley is a good but flawed fighter who could be had mentally which looking at Floyd that is right up his ally, he wasn't any different the night he fought Floyd he was the same guy~ people just made him out to be something he isn't which is something of a Shane Mosley calling card~

If you don't give Floyd respect those others dudes don't either~ because those flaws were always there

[daggum]

oh come on, you cant be serious. I know Floyd fans want to make believe that Mosley was some amazing fighter when Floyd beat him, but he wasnt. He was coming off a year and a half layoff, and not long after fighting Floyd struggled against Sergio Mora...and even Mora got his ass kicked by Brian Vera, so its not like he was in amazing shape either.

not that I dont respect the win, but damn, dont overrate it. Cotto after the Judah fight was clearly better than the Mosley Mayweather or Pacquiao fought.

it's useless. floyd can avoid the real threats and clean up the scraps and they love him for it. floyd doesn't care about boxing/legacy or anything like that so why do fans care about him?

[pasawayako]

Question

How many times have you see Cotto and Tony fight besides their fights with Manny?

This isn't about how many fights u see cotto or marg it's about how important this fight to floyds career if they fight and beat them when they're at the top.

[daggum]

Still, it still doesn't change the fact that what you said about Cotto beating 'Top Welterweights' pre Oscar was wrong.

And 2 of the the 3 names you used as examples he hadn't even fought yet.

Pre-Oscar, Cotto had beaten Urkal and Quintana.

And Oscar was obviously the better fight to take compared to Cotto at that point.

i never said anything about cotto pre oscar you did. i said cotto's prime which is up to the margarito fight. i'm not saying he shold have fought cotto instead of oscar but he should have fought cotto at some point when cotto was on top. floyd could have fought cotto after oscar if he wanted but he fought hatton and went into retirement instead. floyd could have fought cotto pre oscar if he wanted but he demanded 10 million(same amount he got when he did fight hoya) how come he didn't demand 10 million to fight baldomir......oh nevermind there's always an excuse.

[pasawayako]

I consider myself a fan or floyd, pac, cotto and marg but even I know Floyd retired to avoid them. Cotto and Margarito are like Castillo x 2 and two weightclasses above with more solid chins.

One of the reasons that floyd temporarily retired but could have done great to his career if he only tried and take the risk.

[IronDanHamza]

i never said anything about cotto pre oscar you did. i said cotto's prime which is up to the margarito fight. floyd could have fought cotto after oscar if he wanted but he fought hatton and went into retirement instead. floyd could have fought cotto pre oscar if he wanted but he demanded 10 million(same amount he got when he did fight hoya) how come he didn't demand 10 million to fight baldomir......oh nevermind there's always an excuse.

You didn't say that fighting Cotto at 147 would have been better than fighting Oscar at 154 because "Oscar had done nothing in years at 154 and Cotto was in his prime fighting Top Welterweights"?

And you also then didn't use Judah, Mosley and Quintana as examples of Top Welterweights?

I'm pretty sure you did.

Why didn't he demand 10 million for Baldomir? I have no idea.

I imagine it was because being offered 8 million for such an easy fight was too hard to turn down. But that's only a presumption.

[The Gambler1981]

i never said anything about cotto pre oscar you did. i said cotto's prime which is up to the margarito fight. floyd could have fought cotto after oscar if he wanted but he fought hatton and went into retirement instead. floyd could have fought cotto pre oscar if he wanted but he demanded 10 million(same amount he got when he did fight hoya) how come he didn't demand 10 million to fight baldomir......oh nevermind there's always an excuse.

One Floyd would have fought Oscar if he did not take a break~ Cotto was never an option. Why would he fight Cotto for a fraction of an Oscar rematch, real world big boy reasons not wishy washy fantasy talk

Two Floyd Hatton was a desired fight and much easier to make

Three Arum said Cotto wasn't ready pre 147 so you are straight talking fiction.

Four the numbers you speak of were Floyd demands to stay with Arum, to which Arum responded (paraphrasing) the money isn't there, you got to know when to hold them and when to fold them.

Five Floyd believe Arum owes him money, Arum could clear that up but has never been willing so realistically nothing was going to happen without that, so Arum just ran his mouth about Floyd and reeled jokers like yourself in~ it is fitting that Arum used Floyd's name so much to promote his guys into shit they never were because he never got the pay off on Floyd so I can't be mad at him but believing him that is on you~


Get back to reality and out of Bob Arum's fantasy land, you have zero room to say shit to other fans you **** riding clown

[niallcollins]

any1 got a link??pm me plz

[Steak]

Its hard to make believe that Floyd wanted to fight Cotto and Margarito when he went into retirement.

Floyd's welterweight resume isnt bad by any means. But it certainly isnt as good as it could have been.

[SkillspayBills]

Floyd was neck and neck with Pac for FOTD even without those fights. If Floyd took Cotto's 0 though I think the ducking thing would have stopped long ago.