youre dead wrong there buddy ,its a victory on paper only,the world over majority of it sees a solid marquez win,and pacman didnt just get moved to number 2 by sports illustrated nad espn for nuthn bud,also,since when does the Clear winner " ask the loser for a re-match face it dude it was a clearcut loss to manny his brainwashed followers and most importantly his standing in the boxing world.Rt now it should be all about JMM not manny's hyterical fanatics putting forth absurd excuses. THE PEOPLE THAT MATTER ARE THE PAYING PUBLIC JUDGES BE DAMNED AND THEY OVERWHEMINGLY as well as pro fighters themselves and boxing experts SAW A CLEAR JMM WIN.
That's your opinion. Unless you went around polling people, how do you know that the large majority of people and pro fighters saw a "clear" win for JMM? I can throw that same statement back to you saying that Manny was the "clear" winner. It would hold the same weight as your comment.
As far as being moved to #2 in a few places on the pound for pound list, that has nothing to with the fact that he "lost" the fight and more with the fact that he struggled while the guy those places had at #2 did not struggle against his opponent.
The rematch talk I can only speculate because I'm not Manny Pacquiao. It would seem to me that a guy that wanted to look good but won a close decision would like to give it another go since he did not accomplish what he set out to do.
My point is that unarguably the fight was a close fight. Could it have gone either way or a draw? Sure. But again, the people that matter are the judges since they make the decision and they had Manny win the fight. So to sit here and say I know X amount of people who think differently really doesn't solve anything, especially since that same argument can be brought up by the other side.
It must also be remembered that the majority of Filipinos consider Pacquiao a god-like figure. They lack a basic understanding of boxing fundamentals. For example, try telling one that Marquez might have won one of the first 2 fights. They will respond, "But Manny knocked him down!" They seem to not understand the difference between a KNOCK-DOWN and a KNOCK-OUT. They seem unable to comprehend the fact that if a person gets knocked down and gets up to win the majority of subsequent rounds, then that person will still win the fight. If you suggest that Marquez landed more punches in the first 2 fights, they'll counter with "But Mannys punches were harder!". If you remind them that Marquez punches were harder in the third fight, they counter "But Manny landed more!". Then they bring the foot stepping angle into it. Thats laughable, and I'm sure Manny himself is embarassed by it. Trying to tell them that Manny might not be the greastest fighter who ever lived is like going to Mecca or Jerusalem and saying "What if religion is just a myth?".
That's your opinion. Unless you went around polling people, how do you know that the large majority of people and pro fighters saw a "clear" win for JMM? I can throw that same statement back to you saying that Manny was the "clear" winner. It would hold the same weight as your comment.
As far as being moved to #2 in a few places on the pound for pound list, that has nothing to with the fact that he "lost" the fight and more with the fact that he struggled while the guy those places had at #2 did not struggle against his opponent.
The rematch talk I can only speculate because I'm not Manny Pacquiao. It would seem to me that a guy that wanted to look good but won a close decision would like to give it another go since he did not accomplish what he set out to do.
My point is that unarguably the fight was a close fight. Could it have gone either way or a draw? Sure. But again, the people that matter are the judges since they make the decision and they had Manny win the fight. So to sit here and say I know X amount of people who think differently really doesn't solve anything, especially since that same argument can be brought up by the other side.
Stop being so ******, you *******s are fkn clowns.
FACT:EVERY SINGLE PROFESSIONAL FIGHTER, with NO EXCEPTION, said that Marquez won the fight..... including Pac's own stablemates Khan and Chavez.
Your " convenient " fanboy opinion is amusing seeing that Marquez was bouncing right hands off Pacquiao's face all night long, and seemingly not one professional fighter in the world thinks that Pacquiao won
I challenge you to find one pro fighter, who is not financially/politically connected to Manny, who thinks Pac won the fight.
Just find me one.
And if you can happen to find one, ask him why he is so lonely.
Get this fanboy..... Ronnie " pac-hugger " Nathanielz watched that fight with Manny's old trainer and a licensed referee..... they ALL said that Marquez won
Filipinos are ****** boxing fans if they think Punkquiao won that fight! Marquez boxed his steroid swollen head off! Stop eating dogs! It's making you see things that aren't there!!!! Ruff ruff!
It must also be remembered that the majority of Filipinos consider Pacquiao a god-like figure. They lack a basic understanding of boxing fundamentals. For example, try telling one that Marquez might have won one of the first 2 fights. They will respond, "But Manny knocked him down!" They seem to not understand the difference between a KNOCK-DOWN and a KNOCK-OUT. They seem unable to comprehend the fact that if a person gets knocked down and gets up to win the majority of subsequent rounds, then that person will still win the fight. If you suggest that Marquez landed more punches in the first 2 fights, they'll counter with "But Mannys punches were harder!". If you remind them that Marquez punches were harder in the third fight, they counter "But Manny landed more!". Then they bring the foot stepping angle into it. Thats laughable, and I'm sure Manny himself is embarassed by it. Trying to tell them that Manny might not be the greastest fighter who ever lived is like going to Mecca or Jerusalem and saying "What if religion is just a myth?".
Good post man.
Pac-fans are fkn idiots, they think that a knockdown is half-a-knockout
Get this..... one of the morons even suggested to me earlier that counter-punching is "spineless"
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