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    ..and the biggest, most padded record of all time belongs to....

    jose luis ramirez.....102 wins, 9 losses....

    losses to guys like:

    olivares
    arguello
    mancini
    rosario
    camacho
    whitaker
    etc...

    now, understandble losses..

    wins :

    rosario
    boza edwards
    and whitaker.....

    the whitaker fight was a pure robbery....and whitaker later on avenged that loss.
    so minus him , he only got 2 good wins....

    im not too familiar with the guy i admit and ive only seen just few of his fights....but this has to be the most padded record of all time or atleast one of em..

    what do you think?... who beats this guy in the most padded record?

    #2
    Go look at the early part of his career, he was either fighting several fights a year because he needed money and/or because he needed experience. Why did you even bring this up, its not like hoards of people are constantly going on about Jose Luis Ramirez.

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      #3
      Chávez Jr. is on his way there.

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        #4
        What do you mean by padded record?

        He was a decent fighter. Not great.

        Highly doubt he ever gets close to the HOF.

        He deserved the descision against Arguello. Close fight that's hard to argue Arguello won.

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          #5
          worthless, irrelevant thread

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            #6
            Originally posted by puga View Post
            jose luis ramirez.....102 wins, 9 losses....

            losses to guys like:

            olivares
            arguello
            mancini
            rosario
            camacho
            whitaker
            etc...

            now, understandble losses..

            wins :

            rosario
            boza edwards
            and whitaker.....

            the whitaker fight was a pure robbery....and whitaker later on avenged that loss.
            so minus him , he only got 2 good wins....

            im not too familiar with the guy i admit and ive only seen just few of his fights....but this has to be the most padded record of all time or atleast one of em..

            what do you think?... who beats this guy in the most padded record?
            so how can you even speak on him?

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              #7
              ......Mexican fighters have a lot of fights, because a lot don't have amateur backgrounds and turn pro really young.

              Chavez also fought another guy with +100 wins with something like 3 loses and the guy was still a complete bum.




              Ramirez lost to quality opposition, and there's no shame in that.


              Ottke on the other hand

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                #8
                Didn't he start fighting pro at the age of 15, not sure if it's true but I remember hearing that from a commentator, can't remember which fight it was.

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                  #9
                  I'd say the most padded reocrd of all time would be Len Wickwar.

                  338 wins - 85 losses - 42 draws.

                  Not a single good win or fight on his record.

                  Ramirez certainly blows him out the water.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    What do you mean by padded record?

                    He was a decent fighter. Not great.

                    Highly doubt he ever gets close to the HOF.

                    He deserved the descision against Arguello. Close fight that's hard to argue Arguello won.
                    padded as in meaningless wins ... yeah one of few i saw...i had the impression he was decent but i was just intrigued he had very few quality wins......

                    Originally posted by yuppie View Post
                    Go look at the early part of his career, he was either fighting several fights a year because he needed money and/or because he needed experience. Why did you even bring this up, its not like hoards of people are constantly going on about Jose Luis Ramirez.
                    i have and i was watchin old fights and brought it up coz i was intrigued by his record...iwanna hear some thoughts about him.

                    Originally posted by Larryx2011 View Post
                    so how can you even speak on him?
                    maybe coz i want hear some thoughts about him?

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