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**eli porter** · 08-18-2011, 09:24 AM

This is a really good thread. probably worth posting on the boxing history forum.

I think the modern super-middleweights would probably win. I don't think either benn or eubank could really deal with ward and it's an open question as to how susceptable bute still is to pressure and fatigue over 12 rounds.

People will probably disagree with this but I would take the modern heavyweights as well. Tyson is a favourate against wlad but I think vitali gives both of the older fighters big problems. Tyson should win the early rounds against vitali but go the twelve rounds and win?

Also, even though i prefer holyfield to tyson (and think he'd beat mike every day of the week) he has more trouble with the klitschko's than tyson does I feel.

Prince charles williams loses to bernard hopkins probably. From the little i've seen of him I think he relies on his opponent not being able to fully defend themselves on the inside (like tyson). though that's largely supposition. Hopkins is old now and could get outworked but I don't think that's the most likely scenario, the calzaghe fight might be a red herring. He could give dawson trouble despite the seemingly massive gulf in ability. Pascal is very much an underdog.

Toney and McCallum are immense, their first fight together is one of my favourates. I don't like to pick against martinez as he's one of my favourate fighters but I'll have to go with 1991. I think if he's smart he'll be able to rob toney without really engaging him as toney has some difficulty with movers, he's not going to chase you down. But I don't see martinez's power really coming into play, he'll have to go 12 rounds and take breaks. Also, it's 2 vs. 1.

Big names like nelson and whitaker take it for their era. Overall I'm not sure, some of the potential matchups are drawing a blank for me.

edit:

chavez beats bradley, for all his good head movement I don't see chavez doing a whitaker. though that's probably elementary.

**Piper the Great** · 08-18-2011, 09:43 AM

How would the top fighters of 1991 do in today's current scene.

Would they be champions or are today's fighter better.

Heavyweight

Evander Holyfield
Mike Tyson

How would they do against the Wlad and Vitali?

Cruiserweight

Orlin Norris
Anaclet Wamba

Could they get the better of the like of Tarver, Cunningham, Huck and Lebedev

Light-Heavyweight

Virgil Hill
Charles Williams

Hopkins was fighter when these guys were around but today he the Kingpin of the light-heavy division. Would Williams and Virgil get the better of Hopkins, Pascal and Dawson?

Super-Middleweight

Nigel Benn
Chris Eubank

How would these two bitter rivals do against the the Super 6 finalist or Bute?

Middleweight

James Toney
Mike McCallum

Would the Bodysnatcher and Toney pre-Burger King cause Sergio some serrious problems

Light-Middleweight

Terry Norris

Would Cotto and the rest of today's light middles trouble Norris?

Welterweight

Meldrick Taylor
James McGirt

Could these two match the best fighter of today, Manny Pacquiao?

Light-Welterweight

Julio Cesar Chavez

How would Khan and Bradley deal with this ATG

Lightweight

Pernell Whitaker

What a fight it could be with Marquez, would Rios or Guerrero prove any challenge for Sweetpea

Super-Featherweight

Azumah Nelson

Does anyone give Burns, Fana and Broner a chance here?

Featherweight

Manuel Medina
Paul Hodkinson

Gamboa, Lopez, Garcia and Salido, quite a talent packed division at the moment. How do Medina and Hodkinson do?

Super-Bantamweight

Welcome Ncita

Would you bet against Nishioka, Montiel, Kratingdaenggym, or even Marquez and Rigondeaux?

Bantamweight

Orlando Canizales

Could Canizales, make an impact in the most talented packed division in boxing today? Could he beat any of the bantam tourney participants let alone Donaire?

Super-Flyweight

Khaosai Galaxy

Could any of today's super-flys beat this HOF?

Flyweight

Dave McAuley

He beat the Duke, but can he beat Segura & Wonjongkam?

So how do you have it?

HW Tyson and Holyfield

CW Split

LHW BHop

SMW some good fights

MW Toney but we cant underestimate Sergio

SWW Norris

WW Pac and Floyd

LWW Khan

LW Sweatpea

SFW Nelson but Broner is looking promising

FW Gamboa

SBW Rig

BW Doniare

i havent seen any of the new guys below BW

**D4thincarnation** · 08-18-2011, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by eli porter View Post

This is a really good thread. probably worth posting on the boxing history forum.

I think the modern super-middleweights would probably win. I don't think either benn or eubank could really deal with ward and it's an open question as to how susceptable bute still is to pressure and fatigue over 12 rounds.

People will probably disagree with this but I would take the modern heavyweights as well. Tyson is a favourate against wlad but I think vitali gives both of the older fighters big problems. Tyson should win the early rounds against vitali but go the twelve rounds and win?

Also, even though i prefer holyfield to tyson (and think he'd beat mike every day of the week) he has more trouble with the klitschko's than tyson does I feel.

Prince charles williams loses to bernard hopkins probably. From the little i've seen of him I think he relies on his opponent not being able to fully defend themselves on the inside (like tyson). though that's largely supposition. Hopkins is old now and could get outworked but I don't think that's the most likely scenario, the calzaghe fight might be a red herring. He could give dawson trouble despite the seemingly massive gulf in ability. Pascal is very much an underdog.

Toney and McCallum are immense, their first fight together is one of my favourates. I don't like to pick against martinez as he's one of my favourate fighters but I'll have to go with 1991. I think if he's smart he'll be able to rob toney without really engaging him as toney has some difficulty with movers, he's not going to chase you down. But I don't see martinez's power really coming into play, he'll have to go 12 rounds and take breaks. Also, it's 2 vs. 1.

Big names like nelson and whitaker take it for their era. Overall I'm not sure, some of the potential matchups are drawing a blank for me.

edit:

chavez beats bradley, for all his good head movement I don't see chavez doing a whitaker. though that's probably elementary.

Thanks for the feedback and your thoughts. I think both "classes" are evenly matched.

Will take your advice and post it in the history forum.

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