Anyone else hate it when you just watched an old movie or a tv show and you just want to talk about it with someone, but can't because everyone else already saw it a long time ago? Well, I'm feeling the same way now that I finally got around to watching Calzaghe vs Hopkins. What's the general opinion on this? I thought Hopkin's harder/cleaner punches won the fight for him compared to Calzaghe's pitty pat punches. And I really don't trust the compubox numbers on punches landed by Calzaghe. Didn't look like anywhere near that much to me. Also, I generally agree with Ledderman's scoring most of the time, but everything he said seemed completely off base to me in this fight. I gave Calzaghe five rounds at most.
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Calzaghe.
This is 2011.
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You should have had "draw" as an option being there were a lot of people who scored it even.Comment
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I can't remember....ESPN or The Ring scored it a draw. Don't recall which.Originally posted by DoktorSleepless View PostComment
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I've watched it twice (somehow). One time I felt like Calzaghe won a close but clear decision, the other time, I had Hopkins winning by a point. It was really just an ugly fight and very hard to score.Comment
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It could have gone either way so a draw is most likely what you should have put up in the options but I think B-Hop took it by a little bit. Calzaghe was busier and carried the fight fast by swarming B-Hop with volume and activity but B-Hop landed cleaner shots on Calzaghe.Comment
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Well its a fight no one should be upset about if they felt it was close.Comment
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hopkins won it pretty clearly. the only reasons someone would have it for calzaghe is if they thought calzaghe was landing when he really wasn't or they didn't use the scoring criteria and just wanted to punish hopkins for holding too much or taking too much time after being low blowed.
hopkins out landed calzaghe in more of the rounds. the compubox numbers are just flat out wrong. you can watch the calzaghe deception on youtube to see this. calzaghe lands maybe 2 clean shots in the round and compubox says he landed 20! hopkins landed clean right hands and left hooks while calzaghe hit air, gloves, or hopkins shoulders and back. then hopkins would move and repeat. a lot of people missed hopkins sneaky shots in between calzaghe wild flurries. yes hopkins had a low work rate but he had a high success rate(effective aggression) while at the same time making calzaghe swing and miss(ineffective aggression)
hopkins landed all the hard punches in the fight and buckled calzaghe's knees on about 5 occasions. calzaghe even turned his back to hopkins after being hurt 3 times. not very professional. people get on hopkins for buying time after being hit with an illegal shot but calzaghe bought time to clear his head after being hit with a legal shot!
hopkins doesn't get credit for his great defense which is a scoring criteria. when you say calzaghe threw too many punches you are inadvertently giving hopkins credit for defense because almost nothing clean landed. you don't get credit for missing but your opponent does get credit for making you miss.Last edited by daggum; 08-16-2011, 05:37 PM.Comment
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Close, hard to score, ugly fight, which I predicted.
However, due to the fact that Calzaghe fights like a ***** punching his way out of spiderwebs, my self-admitted bias has to go with Hopkins.
I'll take clean, clear to the eye shots over slapping flurries. Quality >> Quantity, but that's just me.Comment
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