Pacquiao more accurate puncher than Mayweather

[D4thincarnation]

If you seriously have to ask this, you're ******ed. Look at all the different things a jab can be used for. You have guys like Pacquiao who use a jab without any intention of even scoring with it as they are feinting with it rather than making contact. Guys like Shane who will spam jabs for an entire fight for a multitude of reasons. Then you have guys like Cotto and Mayweather who score with the jab, hell the best punches Cotto had against May were jabs. I'm going to take a wild guess and assume you're in the "Cotto was robbed" group of morons. Yet here you are in this thread still arguing that jabs don't count. Because of that reason they have jabs, powerpunches, and a total because of how versatile and utilized the jab is. It is hardly because, 'jabs don't count."

But you're either a troll or too ****** to understand this, so have fun.

LOL that is exactly my point, why should Pacquiao who uses feints be penalised by the compubox system, his jabs are not missing his target but compubox will count them as such.

Thanks for proving my point on why jab do should not count when it comes to compubox numbers.

[Jam Jars]

How can so many people duck a question.

What is the jab used for?

Why do compubox have a seperate category for jabs?

That would depend on the fighter, some fighters had/have jabs that do damage and hurt their opponents. Jabs a mostly used to break/weaken the defense and set up bigger shots.

What are body punches used for? To weaken the fighters stamina for the later rounds and/or make him drop his guard to set up bigger shots (like the jab) i guess we can discount them too.

[D4thincarnation]

NOTE: But if ones jab is inaccurate slow or non committed with can be counter with the right hand over the top or Left right hook to the body or head and or a lead uppercut.

Power shots are customarily known to always be set up by the jab.

In all of boxing I have never seen an elite ATG who doesn't have a proficient and accurate jab.

I think the best way is to look at past fight between fighters that have a good jab and other fighters that are known to the crackers!

Roy Jones Jr.

You still seem to be missing the point though.

[Dudley]

Winky was the bigger man, he just smilled at Shane when he landed a big punch.

I know the reasons why fighters throw jabs but the fact that they are not all meant to land is reason enough to not count them.

The southpaw jab as well can be used like a fencer against orthadox fighters. Just neutralising both jabs, acuracay would be poor but they would be doing exactly what they were meant to be doing, stopping the other guy's jab.

Your serious?

and what is the most important punch in boxing? Your seriously under emphasizing a highly proficient and integral tool in boxing.

Just just because Shane mosley, Manny Pacqiuaio, Kendle hold, Victor Ortiz, Marcos Midana Doesn't mean that the Historical/current liked of Floyd Mayweather, Winky Wright, Muhammad Ali, Lennox Lewis, Wladimire Klitchko, Vernon Forrest, Bernard Hopkins, Sugar Ray Robinson who are all primarily accurate withthier jab doesn't man it should be discounted.

You prefer a particular style over another, which is fine. But that's is the only major anchor that seems to be the primary basis of your argument, which imo is short sighted.

[D4thincarnation]

That would depend on the fighter, some fighters had/have jabs that do damage and hurt their opponents. Jabs a mostly used to break/weaken the defense and set up bigger shots.

What are body punches used for? To weaken the fighters stamina for the later rounds and/or make him drop his guard to set up bigger shots (like the jab) i guess we can discount them too.

Thanks for proving my point

Body punches that land, count as a hit for compubox, Jabs that are used for feints, range finders, blind the opponent, defense are counted as a miss, even though that is their job.

That is why I discounted them, that is why compubox separates them from other punches.

[Dudley]

Roy Jones Jr.

You still seem to be missing the point though.

When used Roy had a serious jab bro when he used it but he would use more feints to set up his power shots.

THAT is not a reason to discount them all together. lol

[Jam Jars]

If jabs don't count as punches Wlad only throws about 3 punches a round. How the hell does he win a decision?

[Dudley]

Thanks for proving my point

Body punches that land, count as a hit for compubox, Jabs that are used for feints, range finders, blind the opponent, defense are counted as a miss, even though that is their job.

That is why I discounted them, that is why compubox separates them from other punches.

You still think they should be discounted?

What if a guy who primarly uses the jab in his style and not allot of power shots so he would have 50 punched connect to a guy who landed 100 (power shots) but if you include the jabs what if he threw and landed 200 where as his opponet landed 30 and he loses!?!? lol If this thread is in quandary of why compubox separates jabs and power shots mission accomplished as for a reason as to why they should be discounted... I don't think so.

[Kenny MF Powers]

Floyd had a chance to fight a prime 147lbs Cotto but chose to retire.

A Cotto with a 10lbs weight adavantage on the scales and a stone or more in the ring gives a Pacquiao a tough fight but Pacquiao still win comfortablly.

Lucky for Floyd, Pacquiao softened up Cotto for him.

Pacquiao accuracy would have been still around 50% maybe higher becuase Cotto was slower and didn't run, like he did against Pac

Would you say the same about opponents that that other guy fought first?

[Jam Jars]

Thanks for proving my point

Body punches that land, count as a hit for compubox, Jabs that are used for feints, range finders, blind the opponent, defense are counted as a miss, even though that is their job.

That is why I discounted them, that is why compubox separates them from other punches.

OK then Ibragimov beat Klitschko he landed twice as many power punches. LOL