did floyd fans care about drug testing, until he started complaining about it

[D4thincarnation]

Thing is I know how easy a piss test is beat in boxing , its the least secure form of drug testing in the world of professional sport thats why the others do OST and more and more high profile sporting groups are heading towards implementing it in their sports , the day will come when this is the rules in boxing , every major rule starts with the first step , the first idea , the first notion , formality means in the taking , 1000s take this form of testing and then run world records the next day , Mannys excuses made me feel he is hiding something .

For me it was not a big thing to ask considering what is the prize and what is at stake in terms of legacy gained of the winner and lost by the loser , then add the safety issues surrounding boxing and even a cave man could see the importance of using the best drug cheat testing that is available .

I find it strange that you want to abide only by commission rules for drug testing but you turn a blind eye when Manny breaks commission rules to suit himself in his matches , this is why I find no creditability in Pac fans they want it all Mannys way or not at all in everything .

NSAC run urine test and catch loads of cheats.

Urine and saliva testing will catch anything a blood test will catch apart from EPO and HGH.

HGH urine test is not to far away, and EPO has be tested over a prolonged period to catch someone.

PEDs stay in the urine longer than blood also.

[Las Vegas,]

nahh. hundreds of fights are happening all over the place and they could care less about drug testing. *****s are laser focused on the pacman.

just shows how special mr pacquiao is.

so when they say manny is just this overrated one dimensional boxer who fought nothing but bums it means the exact opposite.

So poochie is an underrated world class boxer who fought nothing but ATGs in his career?

[JoeDaWg]

I don't buy into any of the bull**** and I have never have, sounds like half ass fear mongering to me. Roids and ped's have been around for decades, this isn't a new issue. They are prevelant in every major sport on earth, EVERY ONE. Of course better testing is needed, hell testing can ALWAYS get better, just like safety. But even though every other sport deals with ped's, NO OTHER SPORT IN THE WORLD HAS BEEN HIJACKED by the issue. You'd think boxing was cycleing or something, u got more threads boxing sites dealing with rumors and ped babble the u do boxing. It's a flat out joke.

But if I did take this bull**** seriously, I'd sure be wondering why zab judah can work with Victor Conte, a man who's only famous for developing ped's that are UNDETECTABLE. And by UNDETECTABLE that's what I mean, u could take ten viles of blood a day, along with urine and a skin graph and u wouldn't find jack ****. It wasn't until someone sent a vile of HGH to the authority's along with a letter detailing what was going on that BALCO finally got caught. And even after that it took years to develop a test that is still unreliable.

Yet I don't see the swarms of "ped" crusaders bashing on zab. I don't hear the endless mumbo jumbo saying zab is a cheat. U don't see the same old clowns blowing up all threads related to zab and khan, turning any and every discussion into a convention of ped "he said she said". Frankly, that tells me it's a fake issue, with fake anger, and it's being pushed by unreasonably biased floyd fans, who's only goal is to make floyd and any ******ed thing he says look better.

[tomhawq]

So poochie is an underrated world class boxer who fought nothing but ATGs in his career?

it just means in life you can't have everything.

otherwise you're just a kid who wants all the toys.

[Reloaded]

nahh. hundreds of fights are happening all over the place and they could care less about drug testing. *****s are laser focused on the pacman.

just shows how special mr pacquiao is.

so when they say manny is just this overrated one dimensional boxer who fought nothing but bums it means the exact opposite.

Laser focused lol , how about Manny is a manipulator of rules to suit himself but if its asked of him its a flat no for 3 yrs , that is not su****ious to you ?

Do you write to you government because they constantly make changes to the system that you live by , and these changes in all and any situation start from a lone voice .

Do you understand that every action begins with a thought , just because this thought began with Floyd you make it invalided , I find the way you do that is totally child like in its nature , you shoot the messenger because you dont like the message , that is very immature and irrational .

[Reloaded]

NSAC run urine test and catch loads of cheats.

Urine and saliva testing will catch anything a blood test will catch apart from EPO and HGH.

HGH urine test is not to far away, and EPO has be tested over a prolonged period to catch someone.

PEDs stay in the urine longer than blood also.

If it was so secure then OST would not exist , if it was so good then the greatest sporting groups in the world would only use it , it fails thats why OST is in force and more and more groups are calling for OST type testing , get with the times kid !

[D4thincarnation]

I don't buy into any of the bull**** and I have never have, sounds like half ass fear mongering to me. Roids and ped's have been around for decades, this isn't a new issue. They are prevelant in every major sport on earth, EVERY ONE. Of course better testing is needed, hell testing can ALWAYS get better, just like safety. But even though every other sport deals with ped's, NO OTHER SPORT IN THE WORLD HAS BEEN HIJACKED by the issue. You'd think boxing was cycleing or something, u got more threads boxing sites dealing with rumors and ped babble the u do boxing. It's a flat out joke.

But if I did take this bull**** seriously, I'd sure be wondering why zab judah can work with Victor Conte, a man who's only famous for developing ped's that are UNDETECTABLE. And by UNDETECTABLE that's what I mean, u could take ten viles of blood a day, along with urine and a skin graph and u wouldn't find jack ****. It wasn't until someone sent a vile of HGH to the authority's along with a letter detailing what was going on that BALCO finally got caught. And even after that it took years to develop a test that is still unreliable.

Yet I don't see the swarms of "ped" crusaders bashing on zab. I don't hear the endless mumbo jumbo saying zab is a cheat. U don't see the same old clowns blowing up all threads related to zab and khan, turning any and every discussion into a convention of ped "he said she said". Frankly, that tells me it's a fake issue, with fake anger, and it's being pushed by unreasonably biased floyd fans, who's only goal is to make floyd and any ******ed thing he says look better.

Damn right, how the hell is Conte allowed to work in any sport after what he did, I don't know.

The old saying trick me once shame on you, trick me twice shame on me.

Shame on boxing for allowing Conte to work with boxers.

[tomhawq]

Laser focused lol , how about Manny is a manipulator of rules to suit himself but if its asked of him its a flat no for 3 yrs , that is not su****ious to you ?

Do you write to you government because they constantly make changes to the system that you live by , and these changes in all and any situation start from a lone voice .

Do you understand that every action begins with a thought , just because this thought began with Floyd you make it invalided , I find the way you do that is totally child like in its nature , you shoot the messenger because you dont like the message , that is very immature and irrational .

just admit it bro. all you care about is manny being ped tested. you don't give a crap about the others. the same poochiao who you guys say fought nothing but shot weight drained boxers.

bad news is (take it as good news if you have the balls) poochiao had been saying he will take the test for two years now. result: floyd went on extended vacation and came back demanding $100 million.

keep fooling yourselves homies.

[D4thincarnation]

If it was so secure then OST would not exist , if it was so good then the greatest sporting groups in the world would only use it , it fails thats why OST is in force and more and more groups are calling for OST type testing , get with the times kid !

Every sporting organisation run urine tests and far more cheats get caught by failing urine tests than blood.

Drinking lots of water and taking diuretics can dilute the sample making it harder to detect but the diuretics are banned as well and are tested for.

But the testers won't detect anything if the cheats are using something new that is not known to the anti-doping authorities.

[Modobo3]

Never really thought about testing... But Pac's refusal and lies for not taking the tests have given this issue waaaaay more attention than him being asked to take them.

...and to drive that point home even further... Every issue around this is in regards to PAC getting concessions on every angle of taking the tests outside what many people would consider the standard random blood and urine testing process.

He's losing all the luster he's built up, especially if seriously believes he can win and is clean.