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    #91
    Originally posted by serv View Post
    Nice narration. Allow me to contribute my thoughts on this. Granting without accepting that Marg’s gloves were loaded in the first fight, I still think the plaster less Margarito will still prevail in the rematch.
    Here is why…

    1. The fight at 154 will definitely favor the bigger man Margarito. I honestly don’t understand why Cotto’s camp would agree to this weight class.

    2. Style wins fight as they always say, and I have always been articulating even before the first fight that Margarito’s style is bad news for Cotto because he lacks the footwork to avoid pressure fighters. Cotto got decent footwork but not good enough to evade pressure fighters that knows how to cut.

    3. There are quite a number of relentless pressure fighters in boxing history but few throw them in volume similar to Margarito. Even fewer can throw those uppercuts with such authority and accuracy. Tony was landing uppercuts to Cotto’s chin and body with regularity in their first fight. Hell, he was repeatedly landing them too against Pacquiao.

    4. This battle is going to be a career defining fight for these two warriors. Both will therefore, train thoroughly hard for this match. However, in the stamina department Margarito has the advantage. If the same Margarito in the pac fight enters the ring in the rematch, Cotto will have a long night

    5. This is the indefinable portion but I think one of the most important factors in this fight… HEART. We know who got the advantage here.

    I suppose too that I have to put my money where my mouth is so I accept your challenge but would propose instead a higher bet… my 1M against your 1M…. Sig it and we have a deal.
    Sorry bro, I only have 400k available, but confirm if you want it

    Some good points there, but imho you have overlooked the issue of the loaded handwraps, you mentioned it, but didn't really factor it in.

    Nobody knows for sure, but I think that it is highly likely, in fact almost certain, that Margarito used loaded gloves on Cotto..... so Cotto willl be fighting a different Margarito.

    Cotto definitely beats the Margarito that fought Garcia.

    Valid point about the weight, but I just dont think that Cotto see's things like that. Cotto is a JMW now, he dont use weight or the scales to manipulate an advantage. Most fighters dont, we all know who has given that trend a real thrashing lately, dont we?

    Sorry buddy, but I dont accept the 150 " division ".

    Cotto has to fight at 154, especially if his title is on the line.

    I disagree about Cotto's footwork, he was winning the fight until he started to slow down and get caught, and Margarito is no ring technician. Cotto's conditioning and stamina will likely play a big part if he is to win that fight.

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      #92
      Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
      Sorry bro, I only have 400k available, but confirm if you want it

      Some good points there, but imho you have overlooked the issue of the loaded handwraps, you mentioned it, but didn't really factor it in.

      Nobody knows for sure, but I think that it is highly likely, in fact almost certain, that Margarito used loaded gloves on Cotto..... so Cotto willl be fighting a different Margarito.

      Cotto definitely beats the Margarito that fought Garcia.

      Valid point about the weight, but I just dont think that Cotto see's things like that. Cotto is a JMW now, he dont use weight or the scales to manipulate an advantage. Most fighters dont, we all know who has given that trend a real thrashing lately, dont we?

      Sorry buddy, but I dont accept the 150 " division ".

      Cotto has to fight at 154, especially if his title is on the line.

      I disagree about Cotto's footwork, he was winning the fight until he started to slow down and get caught, and Margarito is no ring technician. Cotto's conditioning and stamina will likely play a big part if he is to win that fight.
      Lead, have to disagree because if Cotto had good footwork he would have been able to dance and box around Margarito like Paul Williams did instead of backing up and letting Margarito gain momentum. Cotto started slowing down because he didn't fight smart to Margarito's style and use the ring to his advantage and figure out a way to set up a body punch which was his best weapon. Cotto has always relied on his power and if he can't stop a fighter then he starts to retreat and lets his opponent gain momentum by backing him down (Mosley).

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        #93
        Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
        Sorry bro, I only have 400k available, but confirm if you want it

        Some good points there, but imho you have overlooked the issue of the loaded handwraps, you mentioned it, but didn't really factor it in.

        Nobody knows for sure, but I think that it is highly likely, in fact almost certain, that Margarito used loaded gloves on Cotto..... so Cotto willl be fighting a different Margarito.

        Cotto definitely beats the Margarito that fought Garcia.

        Valid point about the weight, but I just dont think that Cotto see's things like that. Cotto is a JMW now, he dont use weight or the scales to manipulate an advantage. Most fighters dont, we all know who has given that trend a real thrashing lately, dont we?

        Sorry buddy, but I dont accept the 150 " division ".

        Cotto has to fight at 154, especially if his title is on the line.

        I disagree about Cotto's footwork, he was winning the fight until he started to slow down and get caught, and Margarito is no ring technician. Cotto's conditioning and stamina will likely play a big part if he is to win that fight.
        I never said 150 catchweight. I think it would be better for Cotto to fight margarito at 147. I honestly don't care about the alphabet titles.

        I have been following Cotto's career and have not seen him display good footwork in any of his fights.

        Anyhow, 400k it is. sig it bro and we have a deal.

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          #94
          Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          Lead, have to disagree because if Cotto had good footwork he would have been able to dance and box around Margarito like Paul Williams did instead of backing up and letting Margarito gain momentum. Cotto started slowing down because he didn't fight smart to Margarito's style and use the ring to his advantage and figure out a way to set up a body punch which was his best weapon. Cotto has always relied on his power and if he can't stop a fighter then he starts to retreat and lets his opponent gain momentum by backing him down (Mosley).


          Before that fateful Margarito bout, Cotto was winning most of his fights in spectacular fashion. I believe this is the reason most observers failed to see or just ignored his lack of good footwork. It became apparent only during the Margarito fight. He was backing up instead of making lateral movements to avoid the bully tactics of Margarito.

          Improvement in this area plus a good stamina will give him a good chance of avenging his lost to Margarito in the rematch.

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            #95
            Originally posted by serv View Post
            I never said 150 catchweight. I think it would be better for Cotto to fight margarito at 147. I honestly don't care about the alphabet titles.

            I have been following Cotto's career and have not seen him display good footwork in any of his fights.

            Anyhow, 400k it is. sig it bro and we have a deal.
            I would probably agree with that.

            But you dont beat a pressure fighter like Margarito for 6 rounds without having reasonable footwork.

            400k it is then, good luck buddy.

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              #96
              Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
              I would probably agree with that.

              But you dont beat a pressure fighter like Margarito for 6 rounds without having reasonable footwork.

              400k it is then, good luck buddy.
              Lead. Have to disagree again. Cotto was on his bicycle somewhat in that fight. He was on the move the whole time. Not so much using footwork but mostly evading.

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                #97
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                Lead. Have to disagree again. Cotto was on his bicycle somewhat in that fight. He was on the move the whole time. Not so much using footwork but mostly evading.

                Like the Avi, that guy played a great psycho.

                Cotto has very good foot work, worse when moving backwards and trying to be this pure boxer but his strategy and seeming lack of a plan B is what killed him in their first fight. Cotto should have never put himself against the ropes as he did so many times early. I think he got away with that in a lot of his fights and thought he could do the same with Margarito. Instead he took a lot of needless damage that slowed his assss way down in the last part of that fight. I dont think Steward will let him make that mistake nor will he let Cotto position himself to get hit with the other factor, the Margarito Uppercuts. In fact I think we will see a less exciting version of the fight with Cotto keeping it in the middle most of the time and probably winning a UD off of his jab. If Margarito's eye holds up he will be a very lucky Man.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by freedom213 View Post
                  Like the Avi, that guy played a great psycho.

                  Cotto has very good foot work, worse when moving backwards and trying to be this pure boxer but his strategy and seeming lack of a plan B is what killed him in their first fight. Cotto should have never put himself against the ropes as he did so many times early. I think he got away with that in a lot of his fights and thought he could do the same with Margarito. Instead he took a lot of needless damage that slowed his assss way down in the last part of that fight. I dont think Steward will let him make that mistake nor will he let Cotto position himself to get hit with the other factor, the Margarito Uppercuts. In fact I think we will see a less exciting version of the fight with Cotto keeping it in the middle most of the time and probably winning a UD off of his jab. If Margarito's eye holds up he will be a very lucky Man.
                  That is what I believe, once you start to get hit, you are there to be hit.

                  Stamina and gameplan is the key to Cotto beating Margarito.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by freedom213 View Post
                    Like the Avi, that guy played a great psycho.

                    Cotto has very good foot work, worse when moving backwards and trying to be this pure boxer but his strategy and seeming lack of a plan B is what killed him in their first fight. Cotto should have never put himself against the ropes as he did so many times early. I think he got away with that in a lot of his fights and thought he could do the same with Margarito. Instead he took a lot of needless damage that slowed his assss way down in the last part of that fight. I dont think Steward will let him make that mistake nor will he let Cotto position himself to get hit with the other factor, the Margarito Uppercuts. In fact I think we will see a less exciting version of the fight with Cotto keeping it in the middle most of the time and probably winning a UD off of his jab. If Margarito's eye holds up he will be a very lucky Man.
                    That is your opinion but Cotto was more of a brawler/pressure fighter with a good jab than a boxer with footwork. I think the Mosley fight showed that when he finally had to back up and move around the ring. Wasn't nothing savvy about his footwork in that fight. Margarito had Cotto backing up and on the move. Cotto would just punch and move away letting Margarito recover and jog up to Cotto and Cotto would repeat the same cycle until Margarito finally wore him down. I think Paul Williams used better footwork against Margarito than Cotto did because he boxed around Margarito and kept him mostly in the middle of the ring while Cotto stayed on the ropes and tried to fight Margarito off of him.

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