Floyd Says: If I Beat Pac There Will Just be Excuses

[Supreme75]

Thats just not a good argument dude, its why u dont garner much of a response with it.

what's not a "good enough argument?" If you feel a guy is less skilled than you, wouldn't you go and make that "easy" 50 - 100 mil? What don't you get about what i said?

And you still didn't answer the question. If he is so one dimensional, what are the ost tests for? typical *****, ducking the question. I mean think about this for a second and put your love for mayweather aside, just for a second.

On one hand, they are saying "he is beating all these people up, no way he should be able to do that, take the test"

On the other hand, "he's one dimensional, no skills, easy fight" Does this honestly make sense to you? Honestly?

[hbstowe]

All I'm saying is I want to see *******s criticize Pac for fighting Pac at welter just like u did Floyd. If you dont u are hipocrits and expose yourselves as biased haters undeserving of respect.

floyd gets criticized coz he came over the contracted weight limit. he cheated. during fight night floyd refused to be weighted. he probably came some 15 lbs heavier than marquez. cheater.

[Dynamite Kid]

I say he's right cause he got no credit for beating Oscar, who detractors claim an alleged split decision wasn't good enough

Hatton: oh he too small, belong at 140

Marquez: #2 P4P but too small tailor made for Floyd

Shane: oh he was washed up, off a year, overtrained cause of Berto

If he outbox Pac likemany believe he will they wont give him credit for it, it'll be Pac is too small, the random test made him weak, or wrongs socks etc....

Mayweather forfeited his right to complain about not getting his props when he pulled what he did at the weigh in, the fight was already a farce.

What, Mayweather wants full credit for beating a fat LW, that despite already possessing huge advantages over, he had to cheat him at the scales to?

Shane was washed up, I told anyone who would listen that he was done, that it wouldn't be a competitive fight.

As for Hatton, Cotto just come off the biggest win of his career(Judah), was clearly a logical opponent to face, yet he went after Hatton, a 140lbs, then he wants to complain cause people said Hatton was too small? like anyone was clamoring for that fight, it only became so big because Brits got behind Ricky, and Ricky did a good job of selling it to people, that he had a shot, it snowballed from there, however originally, nobody even contemplated that fight happening, as Hatton wasn't even in his division.

This persecution persona doesn't wash when your actually guilty

[Code Red]

I don't think the TS is saying, "There will be excuses if Mayweather beats Pac, so why fight him?"

I think what he IS saying is: "There will be excuses if Mayweather beats Pac, just watch (if/when it happens)..."

Mayweather gets a lot of flack for not fighting Pacquiao. When you look at his interviews over the years with Brian Kenny, it's amazing at how he's shut Kenny up multiple times.

When Mayweather decided to fight Judah (even after Judah was upset by Baldomir), Floyd was criticized. People wanted Floyd to fight Baldomir for the lineal title. Floyd fought Judah AND Baldomir. Kenny even asked him, "Why not fight Hatton?"

He beat Judah, schooled Baldomir, went over and made millions against Oscar, beat Hatton and took his '0' and when he was interviewed after his fight with Márquez, Kenny asked him, "Why not fight Shane Mosley?"

He did. Probably a little later then everyone expected but he came back.

This is what happens with Floyd Mayweather:

The fans say: "Fight Baldomir!"
After the fight: "Baldomir was a bum! Those wins over Judah and Gatti were flukes!"

The fans say: "Fight Hatton!" (okay, maybe I'm stretching it)
After the fight: "Hatton never stood a chance. Too wild."

The fans say: "Fight Mosley! That dude knocked Margarito the f*** out! Mayweather's scared and ducking him!"
After the fight: "WTF?! That wasn't Shane! That was someone that looked like him!............Mayweather gets no credit! Shane was shot!"

The fans say: "Fight Pacquiao!"
After the fight: "Pacquiao had been showing signs of slippage against Mosley and Margarito. Floyd waited for Pacquiao to slow down!"

I'm exaggerating, but to some degree, this is very true. There are posters around here who were (for months) saying that Mayweather should fight Mosley. The moment the fight was signed, many posters (but not all) flip-flopped and said, "Well, if Mayweather finally decided to fight, it means he's got this in the bag. Shane's got no chance..."

You can tell Mayweather and Pacquiao are in a class of their own.

Mayweather fights and makes them look so bad that people automatically discredit the win because the opposing fighter looks shot.

Pacquiao fights and beats people up so bad that people automatically make the claim that he's on steroids.

These two need to get the fight done ASAP!

Good Post

[Code Red]

what's not a "good enough argument?" If you feel a guy is less skilled than you, wouldn't you go and make that "easy" 50 - 100 mil? What don't you get about what i said?

And you still didn't answer the question. If he is so one dimensional, what are the ost tests for? typical *****, ducking the question. I mean think about this for a second and put your love for mayweather aside, just for a second.

On one hand, they are saying "he is beating all these people up, no way he should be able to do that, take the test"

On the other hand, "he's one dimensional, no skills, easy fight" Does this honestly make sense to you? Honestly?

Pac dont have great skills and is 1 dimensional, thats why he is being asked to take the tests. Guys who dominate multiple weight classes have high level skills, offense and defense. Maybe Roids is where he gets his edge cause his technical skills are average

[NinjaMan!]

I say he's right cause he got no credit for beating Oscar, who detractors claim an alleged split decision wasn't good enough

Hatton: oh he too small, belong at 140

Marquez: #2 P4P but too small tailor made for Floyd

Shane: oh he was washed up, off a year, overtrained cause of Berto

If he outbox Pac likemany believe he will they wont give him credit for it, it'll be Pac is too small, the random test made him weak, or wrongs socks etc....

All those so called excuses are true though red boy. Can't you see it?

[Fighting Pride]

Floyd could easily have avoided such criticisms. The De La Hoya fight was competitively fought, and was probably Floyd's worse performance outside of Castillo I. That's why no-one is celebrating it as something special. He should've upped his game and taken more risks if he wanted that win to be more celebrated.


Marquez fight, well, Floyd did not honor the catchweight and Marquez claims he felt he was outweighed by 15lbs in the fight. There were better opponents out there, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Paul Williams, but he chose this one and because of the size difference which was further made a factor by him not making or even trying to make weight, he deserves no credit. Marquez being P4P top 5 had nothing to do with it, it's like crying about Pac not getting credit for beating Donaire.


Hatton fight, he should've fought him at 140 or atleast a catchweight, you know the same thing *****s were crying Pac needed to do against Marquez. He wanted all the advantages, he got them, so he did what was expected by beating the 140 champ at 147 where hatton did not look good in his only other fight there.


Mosley fight, he had plenty of chances to fight him in the years previous, but he ignored him and said he didn't deserve the fight with 5 losses. Mosley was 38 and off a 1 and a half year layoff, that's is true. In any case Mayweather does and did get credit for beating Mosley, that's his best win at 147, no doubt about it.

Mayweather saying he won't get credit for beating Pac is just another excuse not to bother fighting him. If he leaves it till Pac is older and past his prime, of course he won't get as much credit as he would beating the current Pac, who looks unbeatable, smashing everyone they put in front of him and having cleaned out welter of all it's top fighters. Floyd needs to stop with the excuses and man up, take risk and have a go. You *****s are just ridiculous defending his every word

[Supreme75]

Pac dont have great skills and is 1 dimensional, thats why he is being asked to take the tests. Guys who dominate multiple weight classes have high level skills, offense and defense. Maybe Roids is where he gets his edge cause his technical skills are average

Are you fu**ing kidding me? You actually believe the ****** **** that you are saying? You just said he doesn't have great skill and is one dimensional. So shouldn't he be losing his fights then?

See, you don't know **** about boxing. EVERYONE does not fight technical, like a mayweather. there are many ways/styles that win fights. some guys are very athletic and don't have tremendous boxing skill (think a young Roy Jones). Yet they find ways to win.

To say a guy's skills are ****, only to watch him mop up the division, is just plain ******. More than one way to display superiority in the ring.

Manny wins his fights because he is a very unusual, unorthodox fighter, with a combination of volume, decent power and tricky angles. there is nothing EXTRAORDINARY about what he doing. Just overwhelming people until their faces are beat in.

Martinez has sort of the same kind of style in a way. Is he on drugs too? What about Calzaghe, who also displayed unusual angles and style. Was he on dope? This **** is crazy!! Because a guy is whoopin ass, he must be on something. Typical schoolyard men acting like hoes.

[Lords]

After he whips Manny there will just be excuses of the blood testing making him weak. You can't really use the 'he was to big' excuse because Manny fought Margicheato. So throw that excuse out the door.

[simpson69]

Floyd trying to make the fight right now, where is Pac, somewhere waiting for Bob Arum to tell him what to do?

I think the boxing world outside of the floyd nut huggers disagree's with you.