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"Andre Berto is a slick African American fighter who Manny is ducking"
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostOk then,seemed like U were trying to make a big deal out of the undefeated part of my post.Like I've said before though,I was a huge fan of Manny until the Margarito fiasco.Some people defend the Margarito fight halfway.Which is a little funny but whatever.
This is not in reference to Mosley and Berto....just me speaking in general to those who want to use the whole "undefeated" arguement in favor of one fighter over the other.
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Originally posted by -Top Rank- View PostNo man.....I'm just speaking on the convo's from last night. Just for clarity.....IMO going out a losing a few due to challenging yourself as a fighter>>>>>having a fabricated record by beating scrubs.
This is not in reference to Mosley and Berto....just me speaking in general to those who want to use the whole "undefeated" arguement in favor of one fighter over the other.
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Originally posted by Ko King 212 View PostThe thing is you don't say this. You would say Berto doesn't deserve to fight manny.
For this reason alone Manny gets no credit from me by beating him. Sorry man, but I was raised off of guys like Morales, Barrera, Toney, Hopkins and others who went out and fought everyone and didn't hyde behind an advisor (haymon) and have a network (HBO) hype them up to be something there are not.
This is why I don't like nor tolerate guys like Berto, because they respresent a bull**** era of fighters who put in no work and expect things handed to them.
So yeah......Berto's doesn't deserve anything....he should put in work and earn that shot....just like all the great fighters before him did.
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Originally posted by -Top Rank- View PostBecause he hasn't fought anyone.
For this reason alone Manny gets no credit from me by beating him. Sorry man, but I was raised off of guys like Morales, Barrera, Toney, Hopkins and others who went out and fought everyone and didn't hyde behind an advisor (haymon) and have a network (HBO) hype them up to be something there are not.
This is why I don't like nor tolerate guys like Berto, because they respresent a bull**** era of fighters who put in no work and expect things handed to them.
So yeah......Berto's doesn't deserve anything....he should put in work and earn that shot....just like all the great fighters before him did.
See,I'm reading all of this & still trying to figure out what Clottey has done & Margarito & Mosley since Pacman has been at or above 147,to deserve their shot at him.
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Originally posted by -Top Rank- View PostBecause he hasn't fought anyone.
For this reason alone Manny gets no credit from me by beating him. Sorry man, but I was raised off of guys like Morales, Barrera, Toney, Hopkins and others who went out and fought everyone and didn't hyde behind an advisor (haymon) and have a network (HBO) hype them up to be something there are not.
This is why I don't like nor tolerate guys like Berto, because they respresent a bull**** era of fighters who put in no work and expect things handed to them.
So yeah......Berto's doesn't deserve anything....he should put in work and earn that shot....just like all the great fighters before him did.
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post[/B]
See,I'm reading all of this & still trying to figure out what Clottey has done & Margarito & Mosley since Pacman has been at or above 147,to deserve their shot at him.
I just felt marquez and bradley at 140, floyd at 147 and martinez at 154 is the only fight matter two me.
Clottey fight when announced was actually good on paper but I never expected a human punching bag
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Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood View PostNice try but that's not a quote. That's you typing shit. Link me to the post where shoulder roll says this and I will leave.
Andre Berto is the slick African-American fighter that can give Pacquiao hell.
But of course Manny won't be fighting the young, fast, and strong Berto. He'll be fighting the old and tired Mosley instead.
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostOk then,seemed like U were trying to make a big deal out of the undefeated part of my post.Like I've said before though,I was a huge fan of Manny until the Margarito fiasco.Some people defend the Margarito fight halfway.Which is a little funny but whatever.
Cotto, Clottey, Margarito will turn Berto into a banana. Can you imagine Floyd cherrypicking these guys even at this point in their careers, let alone Berto? Look at some of who lil Floyd and Berto cherrypicks: Matthew Hatton, Malignaggi, Spadafora, Hernandez, Quintana, Urango, etc. Berto thought he could take on someone who's been fighting in a lighter division like Ortiz. Can you even imagine one of these cherrypicks fighting the likes of Margarito?
And this idiot is still into this heavy chip on his shoulder. Take your opinion somewhere and it doesn't mean ****. Last nights fight was a ticking timebomb waiting to be exposed and explode.
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