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    #21
    Originally posted by Champ Is Here View Post
    Not to mention, there was no mention of the catch-weight. Thats all it took. Was just a W, didn't matter about him being weight drained

    After Floyd beat Zab, there was no media pumping him up and tryna build up a fight with Oscar
    1) nobody thought pac had a chance going into the fight because of the size disadvantage

    2) nobody was building wifebeater up to fight dlh cause wifebeater was too busy ducking cotto and marg

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      #22
      Originally posted by Champ Is Here View Post
      It wasn't until Manny beat DLH, they automatically said put him in there with Floyd. Thats when the media took control. Where was the media in 06?
      The **** are you talking about? Pac was the #1 P4P fighter in virtually all rankings BEFORE De La Hoya. He beat HOF'ers and champions in multiple divisions BEFORE De La Hoya. And he was a PPV headliner BEFORE De La Hoya (even has the record for most PPV buys below WW). In '06, the media (and Floyd screaming like a groupie at a Beatles concert) were covering Pac's PPV fights with ATG/HOFer Morales.

      Study your history, then post, otherwise you look like an ignorant jackass.
      Last edited by ThePrince; 03-26-2011, 05:22 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Champ Is Here View Post
        "For someone to beat me, that would be abnormal. For someone to beat him thats normal cause he's already been beaten 3 times"

        Now thats the truth to the fullest. Some things May say is out of the blue and not really necessary. But that right there was spot on

        And thats why dudes is mad and be hating
        Beating Julio Cesar Chavez Jr is abnormal too. Lol, you Mayweather fans are the dumbest and most pathetic Boxing fans of all ****ing time.

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          #24
          So Floyds victories over nearly all of his opponents are meaningless because they had already been beaten?

          Also, Floyd talks about how he fought Oscar at Oscars weight, but ignores how he fought Hatton and JMM above their normal fighting weight.

          He says how Hatton had already been beaten when Pac fought him, but ignores the fact that Oscar had been KO'd by Hopkins only 2 fights before Floyd faced him.

          Floyd shouldnt talk. Ever.

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            #25
            I guess for Floyd to beat Sugar Ray Robinson would be normal, seeing as he lost 19 times. Good logic there, never thought of it like that. Floyd really must be the GOAT. Well atleast equal with Joe Calzaghe he is. Joe has mythical wins over Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Leonard, Benn, Collins, Watson, McClellan, Toney, McCallum, who all were beaten, to go with his wins over Eubank, Hopkins, Roy Jones, Kessler and Lacy. Wow, what a resume!

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              #26
              Originally posted by Champ Is Here View Post
              "For someone to beat me, that would be abnormal. For someone to beat him thats normal cause he's already been beaten 3 times"

              Now thats the truth to the fullest. Some things May say is out of the blue and not really necessary. But that right there was spot on

              And thats why dudes is mad and be hating
              He's been "beaten" 5 times if u count Marquez

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                #27
                Actually Floyd is wrong about the DLH fight. Manny didn't demand a catchweight. DLH said that he was good at welterweight. Manny wasn't in a position to demand anything. You see Oscar was the bigger star at that time. If I do remember correctly everybody was getting on Oscar for cherrypicking an opponent. Making a lightweight come up to fight at welter. I believe Oscar also said that he wanted the Cotto-Margarito winner and he chose to fight Pac instead. Bottom line Manny did get hyped after that but his wins over DLH and Hatton were more impressive than Floyd's were. You see if you can't be charismatic like Floyd then knocking out the same opponents in convincing fashion is going to get you attention. But Floyd does have the ability to get into his opponents head he's not the best at classy trash talking but I haven't seen anybody get in Manny's face and talk trash which Floyd would inevitably do. That being said I think can irritate a win out of him if they ever fought. But one thing I don't understand is if he has no versatility as Floyd once said then why not fight him? If your that confident of victory then why not fight him? Steroids shouldn't make a difference.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BoxingScenery View Post
                  You see bro, I don't mind those comments, not at all. That's just a fighter showing confidence in himself, and (wrongly) using statistics to claim a victory. What I don't like is the contradictions, constantly. If beating Pacquiao is "normal" (or something that happens regularly) than why the hold up for the fight? If Morales beat Pacquiao without the drug tests, are you concedeing you're not as good as Morales?

                  And for the record *****s, again, I support drug testing, please don't write me any more PED novels. I'm just looking for a str8 up answer, as a FAN.
                  The straight up simple answer is Floyd is willing to take the same drug test Manny would be taking despite not ever having testing positive for any PED's in the past himself.

                  Arum's not letting Manny sign off on it because now the only way the fight gets made is if Floyd signs with Don King.

                  Really ????

                  If you expect answers from the Pacquiao camp you'll be taken for a loop.

                  A loop they've been fabricating since 2009.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Pessimistic View Post
                    Actually Floyd is wrong about the DLH fight. Manny didn't demand a catchweight. DLH said that he was good at welterweight. Manny wasn't in a position to demand anything. You see Oscar was the bigger star at that time. If I do remember correctly everybody was getting on Oscar for cherrypicking an opponent. Making a lightweight come up to fight at welter. I believe Oscar also said that he wanted the Cotto-Margarito winner and he chose to fight Pac instead. Bottom line Manny did get hyped after that but his wins over DLH and Hatton were more impressive than Floyd's were. You see if you can't be charismatic like Floyd then knocking out the same opponents in convincing fashion is going to get you attention. But Floyd does have the ability to get into his opponents head he's not the best at classy trash talking but I haven't seen anybody get in Manny's face and talk trash which Floyd would inevitably do. That being said I think can irritate a win out of him if they ever fought. But one thing I don't understand is if he has no versatility as Floyd once said then why not fight him? If your that confident of victory then why not fight him? Steroids shouldn't make a difference.
                    scumbag haters forget Manny went up from 135, 12 lbs, Oscar only had to lose 3lbs from his previous fight against Forbes.

                    Oscar was the promoter, and NO-ONE would have bought a fight of a 154lber fighting a lightweight going up 19lbs. Oscar WANTED the fight at 147 so it would sell.

                    Anyone who claims the fight should not have been at 147 either are idiots or blind haters who don't know **** about boxing, or they are newbs to the sport

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Champ Is Here View Post
                      "For someone to beat me, that would be abnormal. For someone to beat him thats normal cause he's already been beaten 3 times"

                      Now thats the truth to the fullest. Some things May say is out of the blue and not really necessary. But that right there was spot on

                      And thats why dudes is mad and be hating
                      If Manny is a media creation, then I sure as hell hope they can create 2-3 boxers as exciting as him....especially given the fact most think boxing is on life support.

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