The complicated infatuation with the term p4p.

[Bushbaby]

I'm not really sure how to approach this,but any help in explaining it the certain clueless boxing fans would be appreciated.

I see some boxing fans constantly using the term to describe how good fighters are & out of context.The term pfp cannot be taken seriously.It is simply used to compare fighters from Flyweight up to heavyweight.

For instance,if Marquez was the same size as Arreolla,he's be better.But that does not translate into Marquez can beat Arreolla if they step into the ring for real.The pfp rankings do not reflect on real fight outside of a given fighters real weight classes.

For instance Marquez is a highly ranked pfp fighter,but in reality,he isn't a welterweight & won't be able to compete evenly against an elite welterweight,even if that welterweight is not high,or even on the pfp rankings.In short pfp is basically an opinion.

[..WaRSpencE..]

It's hard trying to get *******s to understand the obvious..






JK


I personally hate P4P rankings, they're useless and biased..but i guess there's gotta be some way to be able to rank every weight class to determine the better fighters across the entire sport.

[Bushbaby]

It's hard trying to get *******s to understand the obvious..






JK


I personally hate P4P rankings, they're useless and biased..but i guess there's gotta be some way to be able to rank every weight class to determine the better fighters across the entire sport.

But bro,it's not only *******s & Pacman fans that are infatuated with pfp,it seems that for some strange reason pfp has overtaken titles in their importance to the sport,that's a little weird & completely backward.

[mikemurni]

Thats what happens if the heavy weight division is in the ****ters.. The P4P list becomes the measuring stick for fighters in the sport.. If the heavy weight was in its glory days, you wouldn't hear anything about P4P..

[Toney616]

I'm not really sure how to approach this,but any help in explaining it the certain clueless boxing fans would be appreciated.

I see some boxing fans constantly using the term to describe how good fighters are & out of context.The term pfp cannot be taken seriously.It is simply used to compare fighters from Flyweight up to heavyweight.

For instance,if Marquez was the same size as Arreolla,he's be better.But that does not translate into Marquez can beat Arreolla if they step into the ring for real.The pfp rankings do not reflect on real fight outside of a given fighters real weight classes.

For instance Marquez is a highly ranked pfp fighter,but in reality,he isn't a welterweight & won't be able to compete evenly against an elite welterweight,even if that welterweight is not high,or even on the pfp rankings.In short pfp is basically an opinion.

Solid post. I completely agree with everything you posted

[..WaRSpencE..]

But bro,it's not only *******s & Pacman fans that are infatuated with pfp,it seems that for some strange reason pfp has overtaken titles in their importance to the sport,that's a little weird & completely backward.

That's because catchweight fights have become so popular as of late..

I know that Catchweights have always been around..but now it seems like it's the thing to do, and the biggest names in the sport are the ones supporting it. (Pacquiao, Mayweather, Williams, etc) it makes this pretend p4p thing become a reality when they can meet at an agreed weightclass.

That's where it becomes ******..instead of leaving it as an opinion, they create a weightclass, and make it happen, and 9 times out of 10 it puts one of the two fighters at a steep disadvantage, so in reality it proved nothing.

[Dagomba]

The pound for pound term should only be considered on a certain aspect of a fighter. For example, "Pound for pound, Pacquiao is one of the fastest boxers if not the fastest."
"Pound for pound in terms of boxing skill, Floyd Mayweather has the best defense."

Things like that. Pound for pound lists are very biased and very often not fair. Can we really say that pound for pound Anselmo Moreno is better than Juan Manuel Marquez? You have to make your own biased assumptions to come to a conclusion.

[Bushbaby]

The pound for pound term should only be considered on a certain aspect of a fighter. For example, "Pound for pound, Pacquiao is one of the fastest boxers if not the fastest."
"Pound for pound in terms of boxing skill, Floyd Mayweather has the best defense."

Things like that. Pound for pound lists are very biased and very often not fair. Can we really say that pound for pound Anselmo Moreno is better than Juan Manuel Marquez? You have to make your own biased assumptions to come to a conclusion.

This is true which makes it even more baffling when people hold pfp over actual champions & titles & lineage.How can a person say belts don't mean anything,but pfp does??

[bojangles1987]

It's because the best p4p fighters are usually guys who can climb divisions well, like Pacquiao and Mayweather have. It makes people misjudge everybody else. Marquez is the third best fighter in the world, but he can't move past 135. Yet since his skills are so good people say he can because p4p he is so good.

People are dumb man, just how it is.

[Dagomba]

This is true which makes it even more baffling when people hold pfp over actual champions & titles & lineage.How can a person say belts don't mean anything,but pfp does??

I usually ignore the rankings. A clear example are the lists that have Donaire really high on the ranking. Eventhough he's not a champion, he's above multiple title holders like Wladimir Klitschko.