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    Originally posted by WESS View Post
    Has beens yes,

    I never said anything about JMM AT WW.

    I have said that Pac vs JMM III should be at JWW. Pac who hasnt ever weiged above 147 (WW LIMIT) can still make the JWW limit as he just weighed 144 for his JMW vacantly handed (plaster free) title.

    If he doesn't want to fight at JWW, fine I have no problem. Then fight the younger undefeated WBC WW Champion in Berto (a fighter Floyd didn't just embarrass). Pac IMO beats JMM AT 140 (let alone 147), Berto AT WW and Mosley AT WW. Its about making the best matchups and Pac vs JMM III AT JWW IMO would be a GREAT fight. So much hype and it would sell more than the other two (May 7th c'mon). Berto AT 147 would be a great fight as its something we haven't seen Pac do in a long time, fight an undefeated CHAMPION without any "catchweights" any BS... just WW Champion vs WW Champion to unify titles.

    It's a start when attempting to "clean out" the WW division. Nobody can justify Pac fighting Mosley now, especially when some "fans" that hate Floyd so badly they attempted to degrade and bash Floyd for fighting the then #1 WW Champion in Mosley. YET promote this garbage? Blows my mind.

    Again Pac beats all the names Arum "selected" for Pac. I just want to see the best match ups as a fan of the sport.
    As a pacfan, i agree with you on this, especially the last sentence. That's the essence of being a fan. Even us pacfans, we hate this match up. I was looking forward either JMM or berto since Mayweather is not possible.

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      Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
      Who cares ?

      That is only relevant because Manny is too scared to meet Marquez at 140.

      140 would be a much fairer contest, it would be much better for boxing, and it would also be much better for Manny's legacy.

      JMM has already earned the right because he is a legend, he is still KO'ing champions, and Manny could not clearly beat a past-prime Marquez who was fighting above his best weight at 130.

      140 is fair, and Manny can easily make 140.

      Everyone wants that fight.
      you're pretty dumb.

      jmm hasn't even proved himself at 140 lbs. he hasn't proved that he can fight above 135 lbs and carry the weight well.

      it would be a different story if jmm murks khan, maidana, bradley, or alexander.

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        Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
        1) that 154 lbs belt pac and marg fought for is garbage.

        2) jmm needs to prove himself at 147 lbs. if you don't believe this you're an idiot and want a deathwish for jmm.

        3) pac pretty much cleaned out 147 with the exception of wifebeater who is a coward and berto. i have no doubt that pac/berto will happen in the near future. the best fighter berto has fought is collazo who berto went life and death with. come the **** on!!!
        as far as jmm goes, why not meet him at 140 lbs to make it more interesting? pacquiao doesnt hit 147 anyway so why is it that a jmm fight would have to be at 147lbs? its always about him having an advantage.

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          Originally posted by brian m View Post
          as far as jmm goes, why not meet him at 140 lbs to make it more interesting? pacquiao doesnt hit 147 anyway so why is it that a jmm fight would have to be at 147lbs? its always about him having an advantage.
          jmm hasn't even proven he is an elite 140 lber!!!

          until then, this fight makes no sense.

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            Yes, I guess, I am joke and a kid but this Kid happens..

            to make a lot more MONEY that you will ever see or make in your lifetime and they pay me for what I do and you? you are a dumb **** that waste his time posting ****** comments and waging propaganda against probably the guy that beat you up and didn't get paid for it. An idiot is somebody that does things repeatedly and you fits that somebody...I really hope jmm pays you for your ******ity..anyway..merry Christmas to you and stop being a fool.
            Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
            You are a joke for taking the unreasonable approach with me kid.

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              Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
              you're pretty dumb.

              jmm hasn't even proved himself at 140 lbs. he hasn't proved that he can fight above 135 lbs and carry the weight well.

              it would be a different story if jmm murks khan, maidana, bradley, or alexander.
              Since Pac didn't hand select JMM, this is who JMM should be looking to fight. Only problem is these guys are looking to fight Pac or Mayweather. JMM is to big of a threat to take since they want to move up to WW and it would look bad losing or having a lot of trouble vs a LW.

              Again, JMM doesn't have to prove anything. He's given Pac more of a fight than any of his recent fights and his record speaks for it self. Pac didn't prove shyt at JMW yet he got a shot.

              JMM has fought at 140 and won unlike the one time he fought at 147 (the weight Pac is demanding).

              JWW, to be fair is in the middle as Pac is technically a WW/JMW while JMM is LW. Pac moves down and JMM moves up. It would (technically speaking) affect both as one must lose weight and the other gain. But realistically this weight is perfect for both of them and come fight night they will weigh what the would normally weigh with no pressure. Given the history of the two, they both will fight 12 rounds or until one is KO'ed which = a GREAT FIGHT! Better than what we're getting yet again..........

              Bob has an agenda... that's the problem.
              Last edited by WESS; 12-24-2010, 06:30 PM.

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                Originally posted by WESS View Post
                Since Pac didn't hand select JMM, this is who JMM should be looking to fight. Only problem is these guys are looking to fight Pac or Mayweather. JMM is to big of a threat to take since they want to move up to WW and it would look bad losing or having a lot of trouble vs a LW.

                Again, JMM doesn't have to prove anything. He's given Pac more of a fight than any of his recent fights and his record speaks for it self. Pac didn't prove shyt at JMW yet he got a shot.

                JMM has fought at 140 and won unlike the one time he fought at 147 (the weight Pac is demanding).

                JWW, to be fair is in the middle as Pac is technically a WW/JMW while JMM is LW. Pac moves down and JMM moves up. It would (technically speaking) affect both as one must lose weight and the other gain. But realistically this weight is perfect for both of them and come fight night they will weigh what the would normally weigh with no pressure. Given the history of the two, they both will fight 12 rounds or until one is KO'ed which = a GREAT FIGHT! Better than what we're getting yet again..........

                Bob has an agenda... that's the problem.
                Pacquiao got a title shot because of his numero uno P4P status. Got it? That's the price of being the number one boxer. Wait, did you just said JMM fought at 140?? Are you kidding me??


                Pac is the WBO Welterweight champion, why at 140? There's no title there buddy. Again if marquez really wants the fight, he shouldn't price himself up.

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                  Originally posted by Prince Boateng View Post
                  This 'Manny is still fighting bigger guys' is total crap....... if thats the case, go back to 140 where there is more talent. other than Floyd and maybe Berto.... 147 is deprived of any real good fights....
                  You must be joking of Pacman at 140. two years ago you don't know how things changes. You are in a different world. BWAHAHAHAAAHAHA

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                    Originally posted by bunnybounce View Post
                    Pacquiao got a title shot because of his numero uno P4P status. Got it? That's the price of being the number one boxer. Wait, did you just said JMM fought at 140?? Are you kidding me??


                    Pac is the WBO Welterweight champion, why at 140? There's no title there buddy. Again if marquez really wants the fight, he shouldn't price himself up.
                    I was mistaken when I said that, that was my bad. I was stating that he's been fighting at LW and would "move up" to JWW where Pac would "move down" from WW to JWW which is all of what 4-5 pounds for weigh in? The fight isn't about a title. Its about history and about what the fans want out of the 3 choices Bob "selected". You ask why 140 because its meeting in the middle... you know like what there explanation was for the JMW title... 150 was in the middle? What did Pac do to deserve that title shot? lol

                    Why did Pac fight De La Hoya at WW but want a catchweight vs Cotto when that was for the WW TITLE????

                    Pac weighed 144 for his JMW fight. He can make 140 easily. JMM can make 140 but wont even weigh that fight night just as Pac would be every bit of 144-146 which IS STILL an advantage. That to them is STILL not enough.

                    I have no problem if they say (NOW) that JWW is "to small", its laughable but I'll accept it. What I have problem with is that they wont even fight a champion AT WW. Just like they didn't want Mosley when he was the CHAMPION. Pac wont fight Champions. The one time he did recently he wanted a "catchweight" yet the time before that he needed no catchweight.... see the hand selecting certain fighters AT certain weight classes AT certain weights going on here?

                    btw The 2010 P4P should look like this.....

                    1. Martinez: Pavlik (#1 MW CHAMPION), PWILL 2X (#1 MW CHAMPION)
                    2. Mayweather: Mosley (#1 WW CHAMPION)
                    3. Pac: Clottey (#5 WW), Margarito (not ranked at WW or JMW)

                    What we should get is Pac vs JMM III: THE P4P #3

                    Pac has done nothing to stay at the arguable #1 spot. Bob is to blame!
                    Last edited by WESS; 12-24-2010, 07:17 PM.

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                      after floyd beat shane he was over the hill. im not hearing anymore of that bull**** from mannys fans now. why is that?

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