Comments Thread For: Arum: Berto-Marquez Should Happen For Pacquiao Shot

[SluggerFan]

I am not so sure. Casual fans know the Mosley name more so than JMM. But even so, it isn't the fight I want to see anyway. Personally, I think if the Floyd vs. Pacquaio fight doesn't (or cannot) come off at the end of 2011, Manny should just retire. It's really the only fight that matters for him. Fighting Mosley, JMM, Berto, Bradley or Alexander, etc does nothing for him except pad his bank account. I am much more looking forward to Bradley vs. Alexander, Mares vs. Agbeko, Donaire vs. Montiel, Ward vs. AA, Johnson vs. Froch, and David Haye vs. either Klit (if Haye grows some balls), than any of the aforementioned fighters against Pac sans Floyd Jr.

[LeadUppercut]

So, you are saying it was okay for Mayweather to fight JMM and come in at 146 lbs, when Mayweather never had any intention of making the contracted weight of 144 lbs? If it's okay for one, it has to be okay for the other. But see, that makes sense, unlike your biased posts...

Ummm..... I didn't even mention the vacationer ?

He was a ***** for sliding on the weight.

But why on earth would you assume that just because somebody else does something, that makes it alright, and Manny should be allowed to do it as well ?

Pacquiao is a joke, and your standards are lower than a $5 whore. It is a total joke that you would justify Manny's actions by comparing him to Mayweather.

[LeadUppercut]

If Marquez is fighting for Manny's title than why would he drop in weight? If Marquez wants the fight bad enough he will agree to fight Manny at 147, just as if it was the other way around Manny would have to fight at Marquez's weight if the roles were reversed.

What ?

Who cares about the fkn title ?

Marquez doesn't give a **** about the welterweight division.

This is about Manny vs Marquez III.

[SluggerFan]

Originally Posted by LeadUppercut

What the *** are you on ?

LW to WW is two divisions pal, JMW would be three.

Manny cannot compete with the skills of Marquez. He is not content with it being a LW vs JWW, that fight would have to be a LW vs WW before Manny will even look at Marquez.

P4P pu$$y.



Huh ?

You replied to a question about weight, with an excuse about PPV buys ?

Because.....
you have to be a huge draw to fight Manny, like Clottey was. Right ?

No, wait.....

Excuse me, was I talking to you? Me and hitking are having a discussion....

[JoeDaWg]

Once again, you're leaning on the logic that since Pac would eb a favorite against JMM, there's no need to fight him. Likewise, Mayweather would eb a favorite to beat Pac. So according to your logic, what need is there to fight him?

No, I'm leaning on the logic that jmm had all he could handle with pac at 135, when he was in his prime, and pac was one handed. Pac's got a lot better, and from what I've seen jmm is on the deline. I just don't think it would be an interesting fight. I see it going 2 maybe 3 rounds. Now if jmm were to jump up and beat a guy like berto all that would change. He would show that he can handle the weight and a 3rd match with pac would look a little more realistic then it does now. I'm just not buying into all the jmm hoopla. The guy clearly lost the first fight, and I had the second one a draw but thats just me. I surely don't see him doing BETTER at this point...

[SluggerFan]

Ummm..... I didn't even mention the vacationer ?

He was a ***** for sliding on the weight.

But why on earth would you assume that just because somebody else does something, that makes it alright, and Manny should be allowed to do it as well ?

Pacquiao is a joke, and your standards are lower than a $5 whore. It is a total joke that you would justify Manny's actions by comparing him to Mayweather.

I didn't excuse Manny for doing it against Cotto or Margarito! I hate catchweights, I am just saying that more fighters do it other than Pacquaio. People are singling out certain fighters for certain things and it's not right. You got to take it into account that alot of fighters have done it or have missed their weights altogether, as hitking stated....

And please, stop the name calling! We are all adults here (at least I know I am) and no need to slam someone when they have a different opinion than you do. Me and hitking don't agree but we are not calling each other $5 whores, which is more funny than anything...

[FloydTBE]

Why not pac-jmm 3 now lol. damn ducker

[hitking]

I am not so sure. Casual fans know the Mosley name more so than JMM. But even so, it isn't the fight I want to see anyway. Personally, I think if the Floyd vs. Pacquaio fight doesn't (or cannot) come off at the end of 2011, Manny should just retire. It's really the only fight that matters for him. Fighting Mosley, JMM, Berto, Bradley or Alexander, etc does nothing for him except pad his bank account. I am much more looking forward to Bradley vs. Alexander, Mares vs. Agbeko, Donaire vs. Montiel, Ward vs. AA, Johnson vs. Froch, and David Haye vs. either Klit (if Haye grows some balls), than any of the aforementioned fighters against Pac sans Floyd Jr.

I think that attitude is why we keep getting crappy fights from Pac. Arum and crew are basically relying on, Mayweather is the only meaningful fight for Pac and, Mayweather is the reason the fight isn't happening, to milk the public with crappy fights. There are meaningful fights out there for Pac. Martinez is the P4P #3. JMM is top 5 on most P4P lists. Thos are meaningful fights bro. Pac just isn't taking them.

[hitking]

No, I'm leaning on the logic that jmm had all he could handle with pac at 135, when he was in his prime, and pac was one handed. Pac's got a lot better, and from what I've seen jmm is on the deline. I just don't think it would be an interesting fight. I see it going 2 maybe 3 rounds. Now if jmm were to jump up and beat a guy like berto all that would change. He would show that he can handle the weight and a 3rd match with pac would look a little more realistic then it does now. I'm just not buying into all the jmm hoopla. The guy clearly lost the first fight, and I had the second one a draw but thats just me. I surely don't see him doing BETTER at this point...

I had Pac winning the first one and JMM winning the rematch. But I think you're missing the point. There's nobody out there other than Mayweather and Martinez who would be favored against Pac. And since de la Hoya, he's been a heavy favorite in all his fights. So according to your logic, everything he's done post-de la Hoya has been meaningless. That's not how boxing works. Pac needs to fight the best, no matter how big a favorite he is over them. And if he beats them, its a sign of his greatness, not a sign of inferior competition.

[LeadUppercut]

But Floyd Jr agree to it in a contract! So, with your logic, he is not a real legend then, right? The pendulum swings both ways...

And Sugar Ray Leonard did this often as well, even fought one fight for two titles? So I guess he isn't a legend either...

What a whiney **** you are.

Ray was a legend waaay before Lalonde, he had already cemented his legacy.

SRL is not a genuine LHW champion. But at least he.....
a.) fought a genuine LHW
b.) fought a genuine champion

Manny did not fight a genuine JMW, or a real champion, just that slow, plodding, shop-worn, mediocre, welterweight, BUM Margarito.

Manny is a joke, and so are you. If your intelligence / boxing knowledge is really so limited, why would you come here to argue ?