Astrology In Fighting... Interesting perspective

[GrandpaBernard]

Sergio Martinez has Mars in Capricorn and Moon in Cancer....

He's also a Pisces....

Maybe there is more to this whole thing than I thought.

***y Sergio's Moon is either in Gemini or Cancer depending on how early in the day he was born.

He doesn't LOOK jack **** like a Cancer to me nor does he fight like one.

There's nothing crab like or swarming about the way he fights. His style isn't very reactive or instinctive. He likes to play it smart and tactical.

He reminds me more of a Gemini with his boxing, fleet footed stick and move intellectual approach. Geminis are known for their youthfulness, and ***y Sergio aged real well. He still managed to retain all his athleticism despite being 36.

Another Gemini Moon who fights smart and managed to retain his youth for a long time is Bernard Hopkins.

Another prediction. Berto is going to beat Ortiz.


This is pretty much a lock.


Ortiz with Mars in Aries is very explosive in the first 3 rounds but will quit eventually if he doesn't smoke Berto out in the first quarter.

Is your prediction influenced in any way by how the other Mars in Aries, Alexander, decided to quit against Bradley?

[GrandpaBernard]

This "natal astrology" confuses me. Do you have a site explaining all this about people's mars, sun signs, moon signs? I thought all this stuff was as easy as sun signs, but apparently not.

BTW, thanks for responding in a calm manner. I thought you were going to reply like the majority of NSB posters cussing me out and whatnot for pointing you out. Respect!

Hey you can use that site, and it'll describe what each of the planets represent. There's also explanations for all the other planets if you click the links to the right of the page.

Should be easy to understand. I used that site all the time when I was new and learning my craft.

[Rassclot]

***y Sergio's Moon is either in Gemini or Cancer depending on how early in the day he was born.

He doesn't LOOK jack **** like a Cancer to me nor does he fight like one.

There's nothing crab like or swarming about the way he fights. His style isn't very reactive or instinctive. He likes to play it smart and tactical.

He reminds me more of a Gemini with his boxing, fleet footed stick and move intellectual approach. Geminis are known for their youthfulness, and ***y Sergio aged real well. He still managed to retain all his athleticism despite being 36.

Another Gemini Moon who fights smart and managed to retain his youth for a long time is Bernard Hopkins.

Is your prediction influenced in any way by how the other Mars in Aries, Alexander, decided to quit against Bradley?

first regarding cancer influence in Sergio,

He does have the big square cancer head. cancer moon isn't necessarily aggressive. cancer/sun and cancer/mars would dictate aggressive fighting style. Gene Tunney also had his moon in cancer but he was a counter-puncher. A pisces cancer combination gives that passive-aggressive combination.

You know what's very funny? you pointed out Juanma is Cancer sun and Cancer mars. Maidana also has Cancer sun and Cancer mars. LOL Those 2 guys are almost identical with their aggression. And their KO % of course. I find the cancer influence also gives ****load of durability. I can't think of a glass-chinned Cancer fighter.

Mars in capricorns age like fine wine. Manny Pacquiao is another Mars in Capricorn.




My prediction is based on statistics and also what I have seen in Ortiz with his sun/aquarius. I have never seen an ATG with Mars in Aries yet. Do you know any?

[BennyST]

aquarius suck in general as previously stated.

it also depends on ur ascending sign and ur mars designation. those are the most important aspects. someone can have a capricorn but a weak sign in mars or ascending.... then they are not going to be anything. however to have a weak sun sign..... it will become a detriment.


libra is one of the mid-level in the zodiac for fighting. Holyfield, Hearns, Haye, Fedor and Matt Hughes are Libra signs. They are usually technicians. usually thinking fighters.


Gemini's best fighters include Lyoto Machida, Roberto Duran, Marvin Hagler.... not an amazing list but not too shabby.

Not an amazing list? Only one top ten P4P and only one top twenty P4P....it's just ok. Not really that good....

[GrandpaBernard]

first regarding cancer influence in Sergio,

He does have the big square cancer head. cancer moon isn't necessarily aggressive. cancer/sun and cancer/mars would dictate aggressive fighting style. Gene Tunney also had his moon in cancer but he was a counter-puncher. A pisces cancer combination gives that passive-aggressive combination.

You know what's very funny? you pointed out Juanma is Cancer sun and Cancer mars. Maidana also has Cancer sun and Cancer mars. LOL Those 2 guys are almost identical with their aggression. And their KO % of course. I find the cancer influence also gives ****load of durability. I can't think of a glass-chinned Cancer fighter.

Mars in capricorns age like fine wine. Manny Pacquiao is another Mars in Capricorn.




My prediction is based on statistics and also what I have seen in Ortiz with his sun/aquarius. I have never seen an ATG with Mars in Aries yet. Do you know any?

Gene Tunney was also known for his stick and move boxing skills. He fought with his head. Sun in Gemini.

Moon in Cancer can produce aggressive fighters. Look no further than manny pac, ANTONIO MARGARITO, and Evander Holyfield.

If ***y Sergio had a Pisces Sun/Moon Cancer combo, don't you think he would fight somewhat similar to the other Pisces Sun/Moon Cancer boy ANTONIO? Their styles are very different.

***y Sergio would be extremely watery with a Moon in Cancer. I think he looks much more Fire and Air than Water. My guess is Aries Ascendant and Gemini Moon.

Can't think of any ATG with Mars in Aries.

[Rassclot]

Gene Tunney was also known for his stick and move boxing skills. He fought with his head. Sun in Gemini.

Moon in Cancer can produce aggressive fighters. Look no further than manny pac, ANTONIO MARGARITO, and Evander Holyfield.

If ***y Sergio had a Pisces Sun/Moon Cancer combo, don't you think he would fight somewhat similar to the other Pisces Sun/Moon Cancer boy ANTONIO? Their styles are very different.

***y Sergio would be extremely watery with a Moon in Cancer. I think he looks much more Fire and Air than Water. My guess is Aries Ascendant and Gemini Moon.

Can't think of any ATG with Mars in Aries.

Antonio Margarito ALSO has his MARS in CANCER. lol that is the difference.

It also depends on the dominant planet right?

If you look up Evander Holyfield's chart. His dominant planet is actually his moon.


That is why he fights like a Cancer and has such a tough shell. he can also be strategic like vs Tyson. that is the libra influence.


I actually think Sergio has a very watery presence. very feminine smooth face with pretty delicate features. always smiley and approachable. his presence is very nice and accomodating. which matches his pisces sun, cancer/moon

[GrandpaBernard]

Antonio Margarito ALSO has his MARS in CANCER. lol that is the difference.

It also depends on the dominant planet right?

If you look up Evander Holyfield's chart. His dominant planet is actually his moon.


That is why he fights like a Cancer and has such a tough shell. he can also be strategic like vs Tyson. that is the libra influence.


I actually think Sergio has a very watery look. very feminine smooth face with pretty features. always smiley and approachable. his presence is very nice and accomodating.


Firey ascendant would be more authoratative and intimidating imo.

***y Sergio is kind of lacking in roundness and chubbiness like water guys though. I see the Pisces look in his eyes no ****.

Let me show you some examples of water giving people this roundness.



He had a Taurus Sun and Capricorn Moon, BUT his Ascendant is in Cancer. He even looks more watery and cancerian than any Cancer Sun I've seen.



Pisces Sun gives him this roundness to the face even though he has super low body fat.



Scorpio Sun and Cancer Moon who grew up as a fat kid. Known to get fat in between fights.

First thing I think of when I think Fire is confidence. ***y Sergio just looks so damn sure of himself. Authority and intimidation ring off Scorpio, Capricorn, and Leo to me. Mike Tyson, Scorpio Ascendant, is the most famous guy in recent years for scaring people.

[Rassclot]

***y Sergio is kind of lacking in roundness and chubbiness like water guys though. I see the Pisces look in his eyes no ****.

Let me show you some examples of water giving people this roundness.



He had a Taurus Sun and Capricorn Moon, BUT his Ascendant is in Cancer. He even looks more watery and cancerian than any Cancer Sun I've seen.



Pisces Sun gives him this roundness to the face even though he has super low body fat.



Scorpio Sun and Cancer Moon who grew up as a fat kid. Known to get fat in between fights.

First thing I think of when I think Fire is confidence. ***y Sergio just looks so damn sure of himself. Authority and intimidation ring off Scorpio, Capricorn, and Leo to me. Mike Tyson, Scorpio Ascendant, is the most famous guy in recent years for scaring people.

yeah maybe saggitarian ascending. friendly fire people. I am one and i'm damn good looking and easy going. got the fast twitch also like both Sugar Rays =)

leo ascendants are the biggest attention whores who love to tell other people. Ali, *****, Jack Nicholson etc.

Aries ascendants are often piercing and aggressive aura.

[ThePunchingBag]

yeah maybe saggitarian ascending. friendly fire people. I am one and i'm damn good looking and easy going. got the fast twitch also like both Sugar Rays =)

leo ascendants are the biggest attention whores who love to tell other people. Ali, *****, Jack Nicholson etc.

Aries ascendants are often piercing and aggressive aura.

I'm leo ascendant and I'm an attention whore that is offset by my Scorpio moon a lot.

Self-conscious attention whore.

Sergio has the tenacity and durability to him (see 1st Pwill fight) that makes me figure he's a cancer moon. He has a cool confidence so that even in its most verbal expression it does not sound arrogant at all.

[GrandpaBernard]

yeah maybe saggitarian ascending. friendly fire people. I am one and i'm damn good looking and easy going. got the fast twitch also like both Sugar Rays =)

leo ascendants are the biggest attention whores who love to tell other people. Ali, *****, Jack Nicholson etc.

Aries ascendants are often piercing and aggressive aura.

Didn't have Sagi Ascendant in mind for him. He's carries too much muscle. The two Sugars have these long, thin, and agile muscles especially Robinson.

I think he has an Aries Ascendant but on the Leo decan, so anywhere from 10-20 degrees of Aries for his ascendant.

I actually have a Fire Ascendant myself if you couldn't tell.