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    Originally posted by BigStereotype View Post
    Naseem Hamed
    Salvador Sanchez
    Nigel Benn
    Emile Griffith
    Oscar de la Hoya

    Non-ATG's still successful fighters
    Ron Lyle
    Victor Ortiz
    Ike Ibeabuchi
    Ricardo Torres
    Omar Sheika


    Also, Ali and Frazier share the same sign. And you seem to equate "gravitational pull on the water in your body" with "being a good fighter." Doesn't make so much sense.


    the only ATG i see there is Salvador Sanchez. who died way too early to show any type of staying power. such is the story with a lot of mythical aquarian fighters who fall into the "what could've been" category than being tested through time and reality.

    The rest are the best losers. crack at the highest level of 1 on 1 competitionn.

    the theory is that being born in certain periods has affect on your character at the absolute breaking point.



    leo, aquarius, pisces and scorpios are not well represented in the ATG list. period.
    Last edited by Rassclot; 02-14-2011, 08:43 PM.

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      Not all ATG's but then again, I consider an ATG as a top 100 fighter. On average, there should be about 8 fighters per symbol. I'm not going to find all of them, thank you very much, but let this close the book.

      Leos
      Paul Williams
      Ricardo Lopez
      Jorge Arce
      Juan Carlos Gomez
      Gene Fullmer
      Carlos Palomino
      Rid**** Bowe
      Ken Norton
      Jermain Taylor
      Pongsaklek Wongjonkam
      Wilfredo Vazquez

      Pisces
      Steve Forbes
      Lucian Bute
      Andre Ward
      Paddy DeMarco
      John Mugabi
      Mikkel Kessler
      Fernando Montiel
      Nate Campbell

      Scorpios
      Aaron Pryor
      Wilfredo Gomez
      Miguel Cotto
      Gerald McClellan
      Jean Pascal
      Larry Holmes
      Carl Williams
      Oscar Larios
      Abner Mares

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        Come on dude when you're spending you're night making research about astrology and boxing, its a sign that you seriously need to get laid

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          Originally posted by Jcsuper View Post
          Come on dude when you're spending you're night making research about astrology and boxing, its a sign that you seriously need to get laid
          Hahaha no kidding. But I'm avoiding writing a paper, so I really do have **** to do tonight. Probably wasn't going to get laid anyway.

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            Originally posted by BigStereotype View Post
            Not all ATG's but then again, I consider an ATG as a top 100 fighter. On average, there should be about 8 fighters per symbol. I'm not going to find all of them, thank you very much, but let this close the book.

            Leos
            Paul Williams (not atg)
            Ricardo Lopez YES ATG
            Jorge Arce (not atg)
            Juan Carlos Gomez (not atg)
            Gene Fullmer (not atg)
            Carlos Palomino (could be)
            Rid**** Bowe (not atg)
            Ken Norton (not atg)
            Jermain Taylor (lol no)
            Pongsaklek Wongjonkam (not atg)
            Wilfredo Vazquez (don't know him)

            Pisces
            Steve Forbes (not atg)
            Lucian Bute (not atg)
            Andre Ward (not atg)
            Paddy DeMarco (not atg)
            John Mugabi (not atg)
            Mikkel Kessler (not atg)
            Fernando Montiel (not atg)
            Nate Campbell (not atg)

            Scorpios
            Aaron Pryor not atg
            Wilfredo Gomez Yes
            Miguel Cotto not even HOF
            Gerald McClellan no. sad. but no.
            Jean Pascal lol. no
            Larry Holmes YES
            Carl Williams no
            Oscar Larios no
            Abner Mares no


            let's be real for a second. you are coming off ******ed with the list you're putting up.

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              Originally posted by Rassclot View Post
              let's be real for a second. you are coming off ******ed with the list you're putting up.
              Wait a minute. Let's be clear on this. You're the one making a thread about astrology and how it relates to boxing and I'm the one who comes off like a ******? Did you mix up "you" and "I" again? I mean, I know it's tricky, but come on. I even said they weren't all ATG's, just successful fighters. I'm not going to go through a top 100 p4p to see what sign they are. I just did a little google search and this is what I came up with. Gene Fullmer's not an ATG? He did beat Ray Robinson, you know. He also stopped Carmen Basilio. Aaron Pryor is the greatest 140 lber ever. I think he's a tad overrated, but he's still a great fighter.

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                Originally posted by BigStereotype View Post
                Wait a minute. Let's be clear on this. You're the one making a thread about astrology and how it relates to boxing and I'm the one who comes off like a ******? Did you mix up "you" and "I" again? I mean, I know it's tricky, but come on. I even said they weren't all ATG's, just successful fighters. I'm not going to go through a top 100 p4p to see what sign they are. I just did a little google search and this is what I came up with. Gene Fullmer's not an ATG? He did beat Ray Robinson, you know. He also stopped Carmen Basilio. Aaron Pryor is the greatest 140 lber ever. I think he's a tad overrated, but he's still a great fighter.

                well ******s are narrow-minded. a sign of a ****** is someone who clings onto told concepts and never discovers anything on their own. the minions of the world.


                i told you to list ATG's and you throw around names like Paul Williams, jermain taylor and steve forbes like a tard. strike #2.

                listen i've already proven my point.

                you can't list more than 2-3 ATG's in Leo, Aquarian or Pisces sun signs. all signs are not born equal. period.


                we are uncovering astrology in this thread with an open mind and you come in with your close minded regurgitation that we've all heard before. your argument isn't new. all you have to do is take your ******ed ass back to the beginning of the thread and start reading back. this is the 3rd or 4th time i 'm addressing the same points.


                peace out.

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                  Originally posted by Rassclot View Post
                  well ******s are narrow-minded. a sign of a ****** is someone who clings onto told concepts and never discovers anything on their own. the minions of the world.


                  i told you to list ATG's and you throw around names like Paul Williams, jermain taylor and steve forbes like a tard. strike #2.

                  listen i've already proven my point.

                  you can't list more than 2-3 ATG's in Leo, Aquarian or Pisces sun signs. all signs are not born equal. period.


                  we are uncovering astrology in this thread with an open mind and you come in with your close minded regurgitation that we've all heard before. your argument isn't new. all you have to do is take your ******ed ass back to the beginning of the thread and start reading back. this is the 3rd or 4th time i 'm addressing the same points.


                  peace out.
                  I'm not regurgitating anything. I genuinely think it's trash. Not because of some establishment or anything but because there's no real scientific evidence for it. I read your points, I don't agree with them. Nothing close minded about that. Would me "not discovering anything on my own" have anything to do with not clinging to a concept that dates back to when people thought the sun revolved around the Earth? When people said it was criminal to believe otherwise? Because if I discover that sort of **** on my own, well then **** me.

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                    Originally posted by BigStereotype View Post
                    I'm not regurgitating anything. I genuinely think it's trash. Not because of some establishment or anything but because there's no real scientific evidence for it. I read your points, I don't agree with them. Nothing close minded about that. Would me "not discovering anything on my own" have anything to do with not clinging to a concept that dates back to when people thought the sun revolved around the Earth? When people said it was criminal to believe otherwise? Because if I discover that sort of **** on my own, well then **** me.
                    nobody said it is a science. it is only a theory at this point..... an inclination in boxing.

                    however astrology is very relevant in large pools of study. look up auto insurance + astrology. look up billionaires + astrology. look up full moon+crimes.

                    all proven inclinations by statistics. period.

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                      Originally posted by Rassclot View Post
                      nobody said it is a science. it is only a theory at this point..... an inclination in boxing.

                      however astrology is very relevant in large pools of study. look up auto insurance + astrology. look up billionaires + astrology. look up full moon+crimes.

                      all proven inclinations by statistics. period.
                      1. It's not a theory, it's an idea. It can't be a theory if it's not science because you need scientific evidence that can be duplicated to have a theory. Evolution is a theory. Astrology is superstition.
                      2. Correlation does not necessarily equal causation.
                      3. There wasn't even correlation in the Full Moon and Crimes studies. Every single one included "statistically misleading evidence" according to an analysis by Saskatchewan University Psychologist Ivan Kelly, Florida International University psychologist James Rotton and Colorado State Astrophysicist Roger Culver.

                      Try again.

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