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    #11
    Here's my take,

    Let him keep the WBC title, and fight whoever he wants. If Rahman isn't available until later in the fall, so be it. Let him fight Maskiev, Brock or whoever.

    But strip the man of the Ring Belt.

    The biggest blow to the Ring belt's credibility was sanctioning Vitali vs Sanders for their belt, which in reccent years was gaining more and more credibility. Since then, he's fought once in 18th months, and it was agaisnt Danny Williams.

    I would have less of a problem with him fighting scrubs, and taking his time deciding what he wants to do if he just was a WBC title holder.

    But this whole Ring Belt, in conjunction with HBO, calling and touting Vitali Klitschko as "THE" Heavyweight champion is bull ****.

    Everyone is at square one at Heavyweight. All of them. None of them are particularly impressive, they've all fought soft opposition to a certian extent, and they're all too inactive.

    Vitali Klitschko NEVER should have been declaired the "Ring" Champion, and this is evident in the hard facts about who he's fought since, and what he's doing now.

    The "Ring" title should be held vacent until someone unifies the "WBC" WBA" and "IBF" titles. THAT'S where the liniage should continue.

    Last edited by Bozo_no no; 07-11-2005, 03:32 AM.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
      Here's my take,

      Let him keep the WBC title, and fight whoever he wants. If Rahman isn't available until later in the fall, so be it. Let him fight Maskiev, Brock or whoever.

      But strip the man of the Ring Belt.

      The biggest blow to the Ring belt's credibility was sanctioning Vitali vs Sanders for their belt, which in reccent years was gaining more and more credibility. Since then, he's fought once in 18th months, and it was agaisnt Danny Williams.

      I would have less of a problem with him fighting scrubs, and taking his time deciding what he wants to do if he just was a WBC title holder.

      But this whole Ring Belt, in conjunction with HBO, calling and touting Vitali Klitschko as "THE" Heavyweight champion is bull ****.

      Everyone is at square one at Heavyweight. All of them. None of them are particularly impressive, they've all fought soft opposition to a certian extent, and they're all too inactive.

      Vitali Klitschko NEVER should have been declaired the "Ring" Champion, and this is evident in the hard facts about who he's fought since, and what he's doing now.

      The "Ring" title should be held vacent until someone unifies the "WBC" WBA" and "IBF" titles. THAT'S where the liniage should continue.
      bozo.. shut the **** up..

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        #13
        Funny how every hater's views are so dumb.. all of them have the red bars, which mean 0 credibility for the garbage that's coming out of their little pie holes..

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          #14
          Originally posted by Upper Cut
          Funny how every hater's views are so dumb.. all of them have the red bars, which mean 0 credibility for the garbage that's coming out of their little pie holes..
          Ok, I have some blue ones, how's my credibility?

          I think Vitali should be stripped by the WBC if he choses to fight anyone other than his mandatory on Sept. 24th. The WBC rules about this are CRYSTAL CLEAR. He won a vacant title and was entitled to one voluntary defense (Williams) before a mandatory or he will be stripped. However, this hinges on the availability of the mandatory. If the winner of Rock - Barrett fight is not ready by September 24th, Vitali is entitled to fight anyone.

          The thing is, look at the date Vitali picked. He intentionally picked a date one month after the WBC eliminatory bout so that the winner would more than likely not have enough time to prepare and would have to declare themselves not available. That, IMHO, is a ***** move. He's trying to circumvent fighting anyone he has to fight and just picking his opponents. Will he be injured again after the voluntary defense and have to keep postponing his live matches until the challenger is again unavailable due to him taking a fight to stay active?

          To prevent this last scenario from happening, the WBC should just strip Vitali if he fights anyone but his mandatory.

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            #15
            2003-06-21 Lennox Lewis 24.5 months ago
            2003-12-06 Kirk Johnson 19 months ago
            2004-04-24 Corrie Sanders 14.5 months ago
            2004-12-11 Danny Williams 7 months ago

            As you can see, Vitali fought roughly every 6 months until his back injury that will result in only a 9 month layoff.

            Bozo has posted that Vitali only had one fight (with Danny Williams) in the last 18 months, as you can see, the truth is that Vitali has fought 2 fights in the last 14.5 months and 3 fights in the last 19 months.

            This is just one example of how fictitious Bozo's claims are. Knowing he is willing to lie about such easily obtainable information such as fight dates proves that everything he says must be questioned for it's credibility.

            This just further proves Bozo's objective is not to debate the topic, but to get on the nerves of Klitschko fans and he will say or do anything to accomplish that goal including lie. Now watch this scum bag say "I'm just a delusional Klitschko fan" even though I've provided facts that prove he's a fraud.

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              #16
              Originally posted by PRboxingfan
              Ok, I have some blue ones, how's my credibility?

              I think Vitali should be stripped by the WBC if he choses to fight anyone other than his mandatory on Sept. 24th. The WBC rules about this are CRYSTAL CLEAR. He won a vacant title and was entitled to one voluntary defense (Williams) before a mandatory or he will be stripped. However, this hinges on the availability of the mandatory. If the winner of Rock - Barrett fight is not ready by September 24th, Vitali is entitled to fight anyone.

              The thing is, look at the date Vitali picked. He intentionally picked a date one month after the WBC eliminatory bout so that the winner would more than likely not have enough time to prepare and would have to declare themselves not available. That, IMHO, is a ***** move. He's trying to circumvent fighting anyone he has to fight and just picking his opponents. Will he be injured again after the voluntary defense and have to keep postponing his live matches until the challenger is again unavailable due to him taking a fight to stay active?

              To prevent this last scenario from happening, the WBC should just strip Vitali if he fights anyone but his mandatory.
              The Rahman/Barrett fight was scheduled for July 23rd. It was Don King that moved the Rahman/Barrett date to August 13th, 5.5 weeks before the date the WBC ordered Vitali to defend his title.

              The September 24th date was already set when King made the switch. Klitschko had nothing to do with it.
              Last edited by Torino; 07-11-2005, 10:19 AM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                The Klitschko Brothers are an embarrassment to the sport. I don't see how any true boxing fan can cheer for these guys. One of em chooses to fight in court rather than take on a guy that put him on his ass last time they fought.

                The other one backs out of fighting his first dangerous opponent 4 TIMES. Strip him already. And send Wlad back down to the bottom of the rankings where his ***** ass belongs.
                Vitali is the WBC champ, Wlad is looking for a shot at Byrd and the title, u dont know nothing so plase stop talking...

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                  #18
                  If they steal the belt from Quitali...


                  My dream will come true...

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PRboxingfan
                    Ok, I have some blue ones, how's my credibility?

                    I think Vitali should be stripped by the WBC if he choses to fight anyone other than his mandatory on Sept. 24th. The WBC rules about this are CRYSTAL CLEAR. He won a vacant title and was entitled to one voluntary defense (Williams) before a mandatory or he will be stripped. However, this hinges on the availability of the mandatory. If the winner of Rock - Barrett fight is not ready by September 24th, Vitali is entitled to fight anyone.

                    The thing is, look at the date Vitali picked. He intentionally picked a date one month after the WBC eliminatory bout so that the winner would more than likely not have enough time to prepare and would have to declare themselves not available. That, IMHO, is a ***** move. He's trying to circumvent fighting anyone he has to fight and just picking his opponents. Will he be injured again after the voluntary defense and have to keep postponing his live matches until the challenger is again unavailable due to him taking a fight to stay active?

                    To prevent this last scenario from happening, the WBC should just strip Vitali if he fights anyone but his mandatory.
                    Vitali told everyone that he would be ready to fight in Septemeber before Rahman and Barret was scheduled. Why the hell would he wait for those bums and not fight when hes ready?
                    It makes no sense to me, if they are not gonna be ready for Septembet 24th then why does Klitschko have to wait for them???

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by S0UTHPAW
                      Man if one knockdown means rematch then we got along list of embarrassments. We need to see
                      Tito Mayorga 2
                      Byrd Mcline 2
                      Ruiz Toney 2
                      Ruiz Golata 2
                      Wlad Brewster 2
                      Brock Mcline 2
                      and so on........

                      Now if you would have said the fight was not conclusive you may of had a point.......
                      but we all know that's the reason that Wlad won't fight him
                      all those other fights, the other guy deserved to win, usually came back and won in impressive fashion

                      why did you put Toney Ruiz II on there? LOL

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