Horus Presents: WHY is Team Pacquiao making getting 50% a STICKING POINT!!!

[Pacquiao'd]

The original thread starter can post all the bull**** stats he wants. But he's missing the only point that really matters here:

Floyd Mayweather Jr can't make 40 million fighting anybody else...the same can be said for Pac.

If he doesn't take this fight because he thinks he deserves a higher percentage he fights someone else and makes half that.

stats are bull**** now?

no, heres the fact of the matter.

anyone outside of floyd, pac will only make around 7 mil for a fight, unless bob gives another fighter a slave contract like he did clottey.

while floyd will see 20-40mil no matter who he fights. especially fighting a MW. so you are WRONG thinking floyd cant make 40mil.

he made 40+ mil fighting shane who isnt even a draw. so close mouth and back out of thread

[Toxic]

Yes, you simpliustic dummy. Treating everyone the same is not fairness.

If you give everyone the day off on Sundays to go to church, how does that benefit ***ish employees?

Should you pay professors at Harvard the same as the community college you dropped out of?

Should you pay your employees in the New York Office the same as you do your Omaha office?

Pac fans don't understand basic economics, which may explain their third world economy. It's clear that Pac himself doesn't understand revenues...otherwise he'd be able to convert all that supposed popularity to bigger purses.

The pudgy hospital orderlies who idolize Pac can't afford to buy his fights.

It seems you're insulting a country

[Vito Corleone]

It seems you're insulting a country

I'm not insulting anyone. I am stating a matter of fact. Do you feel the Filipinos have buillt a global, first-world economy?

[rommel357]

Yes, you simpliustic dummy. Treating everyone the same is not fairness.

If you give everyone the day off on Sundays to go to church, how does that benefit ***ish employees?

Should you pay professors at Harvard the same as the community college you dropped out of?

Should you pay your employees in the New York Office the same as you do your Omaha office?

Pac fans don't understand basic economics, which may explain their third world economy. It's clear that Pac himself doesn't understand revenues...otherwise he'd be able to convert all that supposed popularity to bigger purses.

The pudgy hospital orderlies who idolize Pac can't afford to buy his fights.

Before you call anyone dummy, understand and learn a simple English word, it's simplistic, not "simpliustic". So who's the dummy again, i'm sure you could figure this one out, it's quite "simpliustic" like you said. Back to your example, that's a bad one, and that's not fair, do you understand now. But if a rule implies that any religion or every religion can have a day off on what ever day they celebrate their respective religion, then that's fair. Harvard professors gets paid differently because of their employer, it has nothing to do with community colleges, but if a professor in the same community college does not get paid the same salary with the same qualifications and the same amount of time employed, then that's not fair. In regards to third world countries, do realize that some third world countries such as India are one of the most successful countries right now and is also one of the countries that is leading in the current world economy.

[megadeth]

Before you call anyone dummy, understand and learn a simple English word, it's simplistic, not "simpliustic". So who's the dummy again, i'm sure you could figure this one out, it's quite "simpliustic" like you said. Back to your example, that's a bad one, and that's not fair, do you understand now. But if a rule implies that any religion or every religion can have a day off on what ever day they celebrate their respective religion, then that's fair. Harvard professors gets paid differently because of their employer, it has nothing to do with community colleges, but if a professor in the same community college does not get paid the same salary with the same qualifications and the same amount of time employed, then that's not fair. In regards to third world countries, do realize that some third world countries such as India are one of the most successful countries right now and is also one of the countries that is leading in the current world economy.

Ok, YOUR example of "fair" concerning Pac and FMJ is a bad one as well. The scale in which a fighters value is measured is how much REVENUE he brings in. So, in that way, Pac and FMJ DO NOT have the same qualifications. FMJ are much better than Pac's. And THAT is why your 50-50 suggestion is not "fair". Is that so hard to understand?

[rommel357]

I'm not insulting anyone. I am stating a matter of fact. Do you feel the Filipinos have buillt a global, first-world economy?

Of course you're insulting the country and the people, don't be a pvssy now, man up. Question is how many countries out there that have built a global first world economy in South East Asia or all over the world. Especially when a country is in so much debt and corruption. Not too many if any.

[goldenglove2]

Horus Presents: WHY is Team Pacquiao making getting 50% a STICKING POINT!!!

I am pretty sure we have all heard about the currents terms Team Pacquiao wants Mayweather too accept. Which includes, Them demanding 50% of all revenue.

In my opinion, we have to now ask The question
On what grounds do they believe they are an equal to Mayweather when it comes to financial considerations? And by extension are Team Pacquiao, by asking for 50% effectively not just pricing themselves out of a fight with Floyd Mayweather, but also telling the Public they do not know how to count???

There is no statistical measure that Team Pacquiao can present they can show how they deserve and earned the right to %50 percent of all the revenue against Floyd Mayweather.
Which is why I find it crazy how they made it a sticking point that they receive 50% or no fight !!!

If they didn’t get 50% against De la Hoya why are they asking for against Mayweather???

Someone told me, “When people are taken out of their depths they lose their heads, no matter how charming a bluff they may put up.”
And in this situation, we can clearly see Team Pacquiao is out of their depths.
To the point that they are effectively pricing themselves out of the fight, and also presenting a good case to the public that they are operating out of pride and ignorance in negotiations with Team Mayweather. Instead of with facts, reason, and good faith.

Below are the statistical facts behind fundamental and deciding factors behind determining what a fighter should received when it comes to the split of the revenue. Previous Guaranteed Purses and Previous Fight Revenue income generated. This the measures are the only true and fair measures to determine what should fairly get distributed during a purse dispute. As a result, any reasonable person with a decent education can see that Team Pacquiao by both measures of Previous Guaranteed Purses and Previous Fight Revenue income generated has not earned or deserve the right to make getting 50% of the money a sticking point in order to get the fight.

By team Pacquiao making 50% a sticking point, they are effectively letting us boxing fans know, they have no interest in this fight, unless they can receive money by all measures they have no merit to earn or be rewarded with, when they have a possible opponent who has undisputable claim backed by facts that they deserves more financial consideration based on what the facts tell us.

QUESTION TO YOU GUYS

1.So I would like to know your ideas as to why is Team Pacquiao making them getting 50% of the revenue a sticking point in order for the fight to happen..???

2.And Is Team Mayweather Justified in turning down Team Pacquiao demands due to the fact, that they through their body of work have earned the right to earned more money based on the fact they bring in more money.

$Previous Guaranteed Purses and Previous Fight Revenue income generated.$

Floyd Mayweather Guaranteed Purses:
Floyd Mayweather $ 22.5 Million vs. Mosley $7 Million
Floyd Mayweather $10 Million vs. Juan Manuel Marquez JMM $4 Millio
Floyd Mayweather $11 Million vs. Ricky Hatton $6 Million
Floyd Mayweather $10 Million vs. Oscar De La Hoya $23.3 Million
Floyd Mayweather $8 Million vs. Carlos Manuel Baldomir $1.6million.
Floyd Mayweather $5 Million vs. Zab Judah $1 Million
Floyd Mayweather $4 Million vs. Shamba Mitchell 375k
Floyd Mayweather $3.2 Million vs. Arturo Gatti $3.5 Million
Floyd Mayweather $3 Million vs. De Marcus Corley $150.000
Floyd Mayweather $1.5 Million vs. Diego Corrales $1.25 million
Floyd Mayweather $150.000k vs. Genaro Hernandez $600k

* Oscar De La Hoya also gave Mayweather a percentage of the PPV revenue. This was the first time De La Hoya ever did this, all his previous opponents got a guaranteed amount; no more, no less, no share of the PPV revenue. Mayweather walked away with between $22 and $30 million,

Floyd Mayweather Average Guaranteed Purse for his Past 6 Fights: $ 11 Million

Manny Pacquiao Guaranteed Purses:
Pacquiao $12 Million vs. Clottey $1.5 Million
Pacquiao $7.5 million vs. Miguel Cotto $4 Million Pacquiao $12 million vs. Ricky Hatton $11 Million
Pacquiao $6 Million vs. De la Hoya $20 Million
Pacquiao $3 million vs. David Diaz 800k
Pacquiao $2.5 Million vs. Juan Manuel Marquez 2 $500
Pacquiao $650.000 vs Juan Manuel Marquez $500k

Manny Pacquiao Average Guaranteed Purse for his Past 6 Fights: $ 7.16 Million

Mayweather 7 Pay Per View Fights
6.9 Million Buys and $342 Million

June 2005 Mayweather vs. Arturo Gatti 365k= $16.5 million
Apr. 2006 Mayweather vs. Zab Judah 375k = $ $16.8 million
Sep 2006 Mayweather vs. Carlos Baldomir 325k = $16.3 Million
May 2007 Mayweather vs. De la Hoya 2.44M=$136.6 Million
Dec 2007 Mayweather vs. Ricky Hatton 920k=$50 Million
Sep 2009 Mayweather vs. Juan Manuel Marquz 1.1M=$52 Million
May 2010 Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley 1.4M=78.3 Million

Pacquiao's 12 pay-per-view fights
6.25 million buys and $320 million
June 2008: Pacquiao vs. David Diaz 250k PPV = $12.5 Million
Dec 2008: Pacquiao vs. De la Hoya 1.25M PPV= $70 Million
May 2009: Pacquaio vs. Ricky Hatton 800k PPV= $43 Million
Nov 2009: Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto 1.25 M PPV = $68 Million
Mar 2010: Pacquiao vs. Joshua Clottey 700k PPV= $35 Million

other ppv:
Pacquaio vs. Morales 350,000 PPV
Pacquiao vs. Morales II- 355,000 buys
PACQUIAO vs. BARRERA 350,000 PPV
Pacquaio vs. Marquez I 360,000 PPV
Pacquaio vs. MarquezII 400,000 buys

this will be floyds biggest payday

[goldenglove2]

Manny is the nymber 1 p4p king

As fighter of the decade, no one he fights should get more cash

manny takes the bigger risks..., smaller guy....fighting away from home....most likely in Vegas..fighter of the decade..p4p 1.......gee can he getatleast half??

why does horus have a prob w/this lol?

floyd doesnt have to fly his whole entourage half way around the world to train and live in a two bed room apt....

[rommel357]

Ok, YOUR example of "fair" concerning Pac and FMJ is a bad one as well. The scale in which a fighters value is measured is how much REVENUE he brings in. So, in that way, Pac and FMJ DO NOT have the same qualifications. FMJ are much better than Pac's. And THAT is why your 50-50 suggestion is not "fair". Is that so hard to understand?

You and the rest of the *****s keep bringing up Floyds value base on how much revenue he brings. I'm just bringing up the fact that 50/50 is better and more fair than 60/40 for either side. What part of that you don't understand. Again, 60/40 on either side will not get this fight done, so what other fair option do you have, 50 ****ing 50, it is of equal amount, it's even, and it's ****ing fair. It's either that or no fight, which one would you rather have.

[Vito Corleone]

Before you call anyone dummy, understand and learn a simple English word, it's simplistic, not "simpliustic". So who's the dummy again, i'm sure you could figure this one out, it's quite "simpliustic" like you said. Back to your example, that's a bad one, and that's not fair, do you understand now. But if a rule implies that any religion or every religion can have a day off on what ever day they celebrate their respective religion, then that's fair. Harvard professors gets paid differently because of their employer, it has nothing to do with community colleges, but if a professor in the same community college does not get paid the same salary with the same qualifications and the same amount of time employed, then that's not fair. In regards to third world countries, do realize that some third world countries such as India are one of the most successful countries right now and is also one of the countries that is leading in the current world economy.

You realize that the i is next to the u on the keyboard...right?

Your focus on a typo is an obvious quit on your part. Note how I don't tell your peasant ass that "whatever" is one word.

The Philippines is not India. Please. Stop yourself.