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    #11
    i call BS on this...

    its not like it was a head injury... it was a knee injury, surgery will fix it... torn ACL or whatever

    only the ref can stop the fight, he doesnt have to honor any towels thrown in, its in his authority

    if yuri's face was beaten in and he couldnt see the punches coming or whatnot, then maybe... but cmon, its a ****ing knee...

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      #12
      correct me if I'm wrong but even if corner throws the towel in, its ref's decision wether it should be stopped or not. I somewhat agree with fans getting their moneys worth, no one throws towels in MMA, if you sign and train for a fight go thru with it.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Tu Pai View Post
        correct me if I'm wrong but even if corner throws the towel in, its ref's decision wether it should be stopped or not. I somewhat agree with fans getting their moneys worth, no one throws towels in MMA, if you sign and train for a fight go thru with it.
        exactly

        in the unified rules of boxing only the referee can stop the fight!

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          #14
          Originally posted by -veteran420- View Post
          i call BS on this...

          its not like it was a head injury... it was a knee injury, surgery will fix it... torn ACL or whatever

          only the ref can stop the fight, he doesnt have to honor any towels thrown in, its in his authority

          if yuri's face was beaten in and he couldnt see the punches coming or whatnot, then maybe... but cmon, its a ****ing knee...
          that's what I thought

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            #15
            Bad Precedent? Why? He was using his authority as a referee to allow the fight to continue. Foreman was exchanging though he might have been on the short of the exchanges, he was not hurt. He allowed Foreman time, the doctor's allowed him to continue. Him losing his advantage of lateral movement advantage is not an excuse to stop the fight. In Mercante estimation Foreman wanted to fight, could fight and was not taking extraordinary punishment. In my opinion, his stoppage was kind of crappy, as soon as Foreman hit the mat, he waved it off, like he assumed his knee buckled again, he didn't even count. If you're going to let the guy continue, count him out. Tha was a punch that floored him not the injury.

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              #16
              Originally posted by alonsomosely View Post
              The corned did say they did throw the towel. But in NY the law is that only the ref can stop the fight so makes no difference if the corer throws a towel or not.

              However Y's corner should have been step up to force to stop the fight

              Merchante Jr is a horrible ref, already 1 boxer Beethowen died in 2001 under his re*****/
              He remained vocal as he should have. You guys don't seem to understand the rules of the sport. Yuri could have quit, Merchante ASKED yuri if he wanted to continue and he granted him the wish. He wasn't going to stop it unless Yuri was legitimately knocked down at least (which is what he waited for). Yuris corner could have stopped the bout at any time after the round, and they decided to let it continue. You're pointing your fingers at the wrong people.

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                #17
                The corner cannot stop the fight dude in NY, get it?

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                  #18
                  I found it disrespectful to Yuri's corner, especially to the head trainer of Yuri Foreman who actually throw in the towel. In essence, Mercante actions communicated to Yuri's trainer that he didn't know his fighter and that he is ill equipped to exercise proper judgement as it relates to Yuri's ability or inability to fight competitively. Yuri's knee brace isn't a fashion statement or decoration and his head trainer knows more than anyone whether the fight should be stopped or not. Knowing when to stop a fight is just as much of a trainers job as it is to do padwork and build strategy. That man (head trainer) critiques Yuri's performance for 3/4 hours everyday, who is Mercante?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by aristotlemoses View Post
                    I don't think he did the wrong thing at all though.
                    The corner should have consulted with someone ring side. Then the doctor or whomever should have stood on the ring apron and waved the fight off to the ref. But I'm glad he let Yuri go off on his own terms. It was good for boxing in my opinion. Even though most people probably won't know, cause like in the post I just made ESPN did a horrible job of covering the fight, so mainstream fans won't reall yknow exactly how it went down.
                    Co-sign...............

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by lee majors View Post
                      I found it disrespectful to Yuri's corner, especially to the head trainer of Yuri Foreman who actually throw in the towel. In essence, Mercante actions communicated to Yuri's trainer that he didn't know his fighter and that he is ill equipped to exercise proper judgement as it relates to Yuri's ability or inability to fight competitively. Yuri's knee brace isn't a fashion statement or decoration and his head trainer knows more than anyone whether the fight should be stopped or not. Knowing when to stop a fight is just as much of a trainers job as it is to do padwork and build strategy. That man (head trainer) critiques Yuri's performance for 3/4 hours everyday, who is Mercante?
                      I agree. And when the fight continued, we also saw that it was only a matter of time. I mean, it made no difference whether the towel was thrown or not. The fact is, Yuri no longer had the ability to perform 100%. There was no purpose for the fight to continue only to endure more physical damage.

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