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    #81
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
    Bargaining chip? What the ***? That was his excuse for backing out the first time to fight Valuev? Damn you ****ride till the end. A fight with either Klitschko is HUGE...the *** does he need bargaining chips for? lol

    If he beats Wlad, he beomes WBA/IBF/WBO to Vitali's WBC so what the *** are you talking about? You're literally speaking out of your arse.
    Man would you grow up. Thats why I ignore because you do nothing but flame and spit out childish insults.

    You call the WBA belt a bargaining chip? Like really?

    A fight with Wlad is THEE fight. Thats the fight the division has been waiting for. TWO Prime fighters going at it.

    He can lift Vitali WBC belt and it will help him get more cash when he fights Wlad. Thats WHY.

    You completely ignored my previous post that you gave you reasons why.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Demise View Post
      Haye got that belt for leverage in the negotiations with either Klit. Seeing as first time around both Wlad and Vitali offered him **** deals.
      If he goes and grabs Vitalis WBC belt then the Wlad fight just got bigger.

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        #83
        Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
        If he goes and grabs Vitalis WBC belt then the Wlad fight just got bigger.
        Well he wants a good deal first.

        He's the only person left for the Klit's to make money off. If Wlad's dealing with Povetkin, that leaves Vitali.

        Who, against Haye, is the better brother.

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          #84
          Originally, Haye called out Wladimir and thought that he could beat him, and genuinely wanted the fight. However, when he saw Wladimir beat Chambers, he realized that currently he was no match for him, and he realized that he needs more time. But no, right now, he does not want a match with Wladimir (forget Vitali). It's neither option.

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            #85
            This is a ****ing disgrace. Haye is a joke and anyone that defends him a ***** who obviously cares nothing for boxing.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Demise View Post
              Well he wants a good deal first.

              He's the only person left for the Klit's to make money off. If Wlad's dealing with Povetkin, that leaves Vitali.

              Who, against Haye, is the better brother.

              The Klits do 50k people in any German arena fighting Julio the Janitor.

              And have 50% of Germany watch the fight.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Demise View Post
                Well he wants a good deal first.

                He's the only person left for the Klit's to make money off. If Wlad's dealing with Povetkin, that leaves Vitali.

                Who, against Haye, is the better brother.
                I agree 100%.

                They both are big money fights. But the Wlad fight can be like.....EPIC.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by jreckoning View Post
                  The Klits do 50k people in any German arena fighting Julio the Janitor.

                  And have 50% of Germany watch the fight.
                  They've pretty much cleared out the whole HW scene.

                  Name me some HWs, **** or not, that the Klits haven't fought.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                    Man would you grow up. Thats why I ignore because you do nothing but flame and spit out childish insults.

                    You call the WBA belt a bargaining chip? Like really?

                    A fight with Wlad is THEE fight. Thats the fight the division has been waiting for. TWO Prime fighters going at it.

                    He can lift Vitali WBC belt and it will help him get more cash when he fights Wlad. Thats WHY.

                    You completely ignored my previous post that you gave you reasons why.
                    You ignore cos you get exposed and cant handle debating. Man up and stop crying like a girl about people hurting your little feelings. You sound like Haye saying hes too tired to fight.

                    Haye vs either Klitschko is a huge fight. Why have you suddenly spun this like Wlad is big money and Vitali is a stepping stone? This is serious delusion.

                    By your logic, he can also fight Wlad, have THREE....yes THREE belts and then have THREE "baragaining chips" (lol) to fight Vitali who will only have ONE. So why cant he fight Wlad?

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Demise View Post
                      Well he wants a good deal first.

                      He's the only person left for the Klit's to make money off. If Wlad's dealing with Povetkin, that leaves Vitali.

                      Who, against Haye, is the better brother.
                      Yeah, I've heard Vitali is fighting Sosnowski for free

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