how would pacquiao have fared against mosley?

[Michael Hall]

i'm not sure how pac would have responded if mosley wobbled him like that. seriously. it's very possible shane would have finished the job right there. if he didn't then pac wins a decision.

[STREET CLEANER]

The last dominant right hand fighter Pac has faced was Marquez, don't think that Pac would had KO Mosley, styles makes fights.

[prometheuslord]

I find it funny how before the fight posters were saying that Floyds defense will not allow Mosley to land and how he wont get hit
then
BAM he got rocked by that right hand
was stunned then wobbled

Well guess what
Mannys defense isnt as good as Floyds
I think manny would have crumbled with that Right hand and it would have been over in 2

and i don't understand how anybody can still doubt manny's chin after cotto and clottey. pac would have been rocked (anybody would), but he would have recovered.

[#1Assassin]

thoughts?

note: we're talking about the mosley of last night, not the welterweight who beat de la hoya 10 years ago. last night's mosley may or may not have aged overnight (yall will have something to say about that too i'm sure)

i think pac would have KOd him. i think mosley and cotto are about level in terms of skills, but i think mosley wouldn't have been able to run for long against pac. cotto had stamina, mosley seeming ran out halfway through the fight. part of it was because of floyd of course, but i just didn't see much energy from mosley tonight.

doesn't mean pac would beat floyd (haven't made up my mind about that one yet), i'm just saying both floyd and pac would have dominated mosley last night, same way they both dominated hatton in their own different ways.

no way pacquiao knocks out mosley. beat him, fine. but theres no way in hell he knocks him out. mosley looked lost cuz he was fighting a smarter more skilled oponent, that wouldnt be the case against pac. the speed and power of mosley would be more dangerous to pac then the other way around, shane took bombs from 154lbers and big WW punchers, pac fought strong guys at WW but not punchers, except for oscar but he couldnt get of all night.

mosleys skill level is way higher than cottos, if u cant see that your boxing IQ is limited bro. sometimes shane lacks patience and makes technical mistakes but his fundamental base is still much better than cottos, and he has more advanced skills too. its not even close.

mosley never ran against floyd eighter, that again shows your limited boxing knowledge. i dont mean to be rude but its true, mainstream fans often dont know what running really is and u clearly dont. hardcore fans do.

shane looked bad cuz he got neutralized, against forrest and winky he looked the same way, its that hes confused not old. but it takes a master boxer to get him in that situation something which pac is not, hes a physical fighter and i struggle to see that type of fighter beat shane, a KO is out of the question. pac wouldnt outsmart or outskill mosley, shane has the advantage in both those areas. plus he can almost match pacs speed, with more power and size. mosley by KO.

[NSX-R]

Pacquiao would have KO'd the Mosley of Saturday night. Even if Mosley landed major shots Pacquiao would just eat them up.

[Chuckguy]

and i don't understand how anybody can still doubt manny's chin after cotto and clottey. pac would have been rocked (anybody would), but he would have recovered.

Yeah but Manny isnt a defense first fighter like floyd
he would have slapped his gloves together and tried to fight back and SSM would have knocked him out
IMO
I have seen pac rocked a few times and he has never Held on
so he wouldnt hold on to Shane therefor he would have been stopped

If Floyd didnt hold on he would have been stopped too
but he was smart and it payed off for him

[F l i c k e r]

nah. cotto and clottey both hit pac with bombs and pac shrugged and dominated them. both floyd and pac have iron chins at welterweight. i can see pac getting hurt by a punch he didn't see, but i don't see him getting knocked out.

meanwhile, he'd be landing heavy shots on shane too.

The problem with those two examples is that they both were 1 shotting. They expected 1 hard punch to be enough and never followed up. Clottey hurt Pacquiao once and never followed up. Cotto hurt Pacquiao once and never followed up. Cotto then got obliterated with the speed and power. Clottey just never punched what-so-ever.


The difference with Mosley is, when he smells blood in the water he goes for the kill. He couldn't do that with Mayweather because Mayweather clinched hard.

Pacquiao doesn't know what a clinch is. He would have ended up going out on his shield. By that I mean, he would have went out swinging.

When Pacquiao gets rocked he keeps fighting with his hands down. They would have traded shots... it comes down to who's punch is harder and who's chin is stronger. Undebateable, Mosley's chin is better. While I believe Mosley's power > Pacquiao's power.

[#1Assassin]

and i don't understand how anybody can still doubt manny's chin after cotto and clottey. pac would have been rocked (anybody would), but he would have recovered.

he proved hes got a decent chin or better at WW but that doesnt mean u can take shots from mosley, floyd has a great chin and look at him when he got hit flush.

clottey isnt even a puncher. hes strong but hes not a puncher at all, he hit judah with his best shots repetedly and never stunned him or anything, floyd hurt judah more when he hit him. clottey doesnt have a history of knocking any top fighters out, judah was stopped on a cut. when in clotteys career has he displayed punching power? seriously have i missed something, cuz i damn sure havent seen it. eighter way he only landed like 2-3 clean shots on pac, with no history of 1 punch KOs why should pac not take those shots well?

cotto is a good puncher, but hes not a 1 punch KO artist eighter, he breaks guys down. he didnt hit manny enough to break him down or apply pressure which is what made most of his oponents fold more so than his power. he has no real history of knocking guys out with one punch, no early KOs at the top level. hes a powerful puncher dont get me wrong, but he cant be compared to mosley as far as explosive power is concerned. mosley stretched vargas with 1 punch, out of nowhere. he bombed out alot of fighters early and knocked guys out cold. cotto hasnt done that, he breaks guys down with pressure and take their heart. the old cotto anyways before his soul got knocked out by margarito.

that pac took a few shots from clottey and cotto doesnt mean he can take mosleys shots. not saying he cant take a punch, he can. but mosley is a diffrent kind of puncher compared to the guys pac fought.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

thoughts?

note: we're talking about the mosley of last night, not the welterweight who beat de la hoya 10 years ago. last night's mosley may or may not have aged overnight (yall will have something to say about that too i'm sure)

i think pac would have KOd him. i think mosley and cotto are about level in terms of skills, but i think mosley wouldn't have been able to run for long against pac. cotto had stamina, mosley seeming ran out halfway through the fight. part of it was because of floyd of course, but i just didn't see much energy from mosley tonight.

doesn't mean pac would beat floyd (haven't made up my mind about that one yet), i'm just saying both floyd and pac would have dominated mosley last night, same way they both dominated hatton in their own different ways.

not to take away from Floyd's great performance but i think THAT version of Shane gets stopped by PAC in under 10

[prometheuslord]

no way pacquiao knocks out mosley. beat him, fine. but theres no way in hell he knocks him out. mosley looked lost cuz he was fighting a smarter more skilled oponent, that wouldnt be the case against pac. the speed and power of mosley would be more dangerous to pac then the other way around, shane took bombs from 154lbers and big WW punchers, pac fought strong guys at WW but not punchers, except for oscar but he couldnt get of all night.

mosleys skill level is way higher than cottos, if u cant see that your boxing IQ is limited bro. sometimes shane lacks patience and makes technical mistakes but his fundamental base is still much better than cottos, and he has more advanced skills too. its not even close.

mosley never ran against floyd eighter, that again shows your limited boxing knowledge. i dont mean to be rude but its true, mainstream fans often dont know what running really is and u clearly dont. hardcore fans do.

shane looked bad cuz he got neutralized, against forrest and winky he looked the same way, its that hes confused not old. but it takes a master boxer to get him in that situation something which pac is not, hes a physical fighter and i struggle to see that type of fighter beat shane, a KO is out of the question. pac wouldnt outsmart or outskill mosley, shane has the advantage in both those areas. plus he can almost match pacs speed, with more power and size. mosley by KO.

silly, silly man. cotto beat mosley, and you say his skill level isn't even close to mosley's? the mosley who got beaten around by forrest and winky and MAYORGA? cotto outboxed him through most of those rounds, and mosley couldn't catch him in those later rounds when cotto started moving backwards. maybe mosley was just bored, didn't want to reveal that vastly superior skill? or maybe you're just a shane mosley ball licker, even now.

not to say i'm against shane. he's one of my favorite fighters. but he's deeply flawed, just like cotto, and late in his career they were about the same, and i wouldn't be surprised if they fought 10 times and came out 5-5.

who said mosley ran against floyd? cotto ran. that's why he survived 12 rounds and almost made it to the final bell. i'm saying a discouraged shane mosley wouldn't have made it to that final bell cause he wouldn't have had the stamina to last that long.

no doubt mosley was confused. no doubt he was beaten by a superior boxer. but i saw ricardo mayorga make him look confused, and i don't see anybody calling mayorga a master boxer.

finally, mosley had great skills, world-class skills really, but to say he's on another league from pac reveals you to be a silly, silly man indeed. you're right about smarts though, shane's definitely smarter than pac. but that's what freddie roach is for.