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    #31
    lol at the idiot who said the Pascal fight was close and could have gone either way. As much as I like and rate Pascal, He won 4 rounds at maximum. The first 6 rounds were very competitive but after that Carl just took over and kept him at bay. I do think part of it was because Pascal got tired due to having to cut alot of weight (He walks around at 180) which is why he looks so much better at 175 but Froch deserves alot of credit for beating Pascal. Who could be LHW#1 by the end of this year.

    I noticed alot of the americans complaining Dirrell was robbbed, Seriously you all need to grow up and get real. Dirrell did way too much running, holding and falling to the ground without being touched. There was absolutley no way he won the fight. Dirrell undoubtedley has potential but his constant running and clowning style does not appeal to me.

    The Ward-Kessler fight was tainted by all the fouls Ward got away with, I like Ward but I do feel he should have been deducted or at least warned for his constant use of the head. Either way I feel Ward is a superior fighter to Kessler anyway. But since all of you americans (Including Ward) are insisting that Kessler will beat Froch. I don't want to hear any excuses if and when Carl beats him.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Kid Lavigne View Post
      Mikkel actually has a very decent resume. He has wins over several fighters who were Ring top 10 at the time: Mundine, Andrade, Beyer, etc.

      Kessler had both the WBA and WBC titles before he fought Joe Calzaghe.
      I'm not saying that Kessler isn't a good boxer. He has got good skills. But for me he is still a B-class fighter untill he gets that defining win. A win over Froch will be the most defining win of Kessler so far.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Allucard View Post
        Froch does deserve credit if he beats Kessler, in Denmark. But lets take things into prespective here. Ward is a 25 year old who was still a prospect when he defeated Kessler, a 30+ fight fighter. Froch also has allot of experience. That's why people say Ward may be the best. Dirrell also impressed me allot, he beat both Abraham and Froch, was awarded only one of those, true but he was also a prospect with 18 fights when he fought Froch! How many fighters under 20 fight would even be competitive against a champion? And he beat him! It wasn't awarded as such but he whooped Froggy's butt.
        Perhaps the worst post I have ever read on this forum. I suppose you are a known racist on here so I won't go into too much detail destroying your post.

        You say Ward is a prospect yet Froch has a lot of experience? Nonsense, the only thing separating them in the professional ranks is 2 good wins (Froch has Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell) and Ward has Kessler. They have a comparable number of fights and Ward is very accomplished amatuer with a 115 – 5 record and Olympic gold medal... exceeding that of Froch's world championship bronze medal.

        Dirrell did not beat Froch... I would recommend a CAT scan if you maintain this is the case. You could also possibly re-download your version of the fight if it is corrupted and has Dirrell being announced the winner? Also a website called Boxrec holds a lot of boxing records, you could try checking that. Dirrell has natural skills and it was a competitive fight sure.

        So again... you probably think Ward is the best because be beat Kessler but if Froch beats him you have to 'put thing into perspective'.... Garbage bias from the king of nonsense post: Allucard.

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          #34
          Funny that some people question Kessler's resume calling him a "B minus fighter" yet before the tournament started. He had the best resume out of everyone. He has beaten several high ranked Super Middleweights such as Beyer, Andrade, Mundine, Siaca, Lucas, Sartison. Kessler also had the WBC and WBA belts.

          That's better than anyone else in there, Aside from maybe Abraham who had a pretty good MW resume but id still say Kessler's resume was better.

          Calling Kessler a "B fighter" is just ignorant and ******.

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            #35
            Originally posted by wazaa. View Post
            Ward got much praise because he was an untested pro boxer that dominated a veteran who was supposedly Calzaghe's best win. No one prior to Ward had exposed Kessler. Not even Calzaghe. We all were fooled that Kessler was a great fighter. Ward's dominating performance showed us that Kessler isnt that great.
            Horrendous post.

            I'm sick and tired of boxingscene's mentality that if you lose you suddenly become some kind of bum with no future.

            Also, 'No one prior to Ward had exposed Kessler. Not even Calzaghe.' What are you on about man? Calzaghe clearly won about 9 rounds of the Kessler fight and left the guy confused with his punch output and angle work... much the same as Ward did. This isn't counting the effect of Ward's DISGRACEFUL headbutting on Kessler. Only delusional bumboys would have called Kessler great before or after the Calzaghe fight. Get real.

            By the way, Open question to all: Has anyone ever seen a fighter headbutt another fighter 4-5 times to open cuts and not been warned once? I have never seen that before... ever.

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              #36
              Originally posted by o0P4PBOXING0o View Post
              Funny that some people question Kessler's resume calling him a "B minus fighter" yet before the tournament started. He had the best resume out of everyone. He has beaten several high ranked Super Middleweights such as Beyer, Andrade, Mundine, Siaca, Lucas, Sartison. Kessler also had the WBC and WBA belts.

              That's better than anyone else in there, Aside from maybe Abraham who had a pretty good MW resume but id still say Kessler's resume was better.

              Calling Kessler a "B fighter" is just ignorant and ******.
              This. People like Allucard and Wazza just can't disguise their hate though. Be it because the fighter is white and/or to discredit Calzaghe.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Shattered Jaw View Post
                This. People like Allucard and Wazza just can't disguise their hate though. Be it because the fighter is white and/or to discredit Calzaghe.
                Yeah I think the main people who **** on Kessler are just Calzaghe haters tbh

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by snootz86 View Post
                  Yeah I think the main people who **** on Kessler are just Calzaghe haters tbh
                  You can't blame them to be honest... when you follow a fighter like Khan you've got to occupy your spare time with some other fighters while Khan ducks his next 3 opponents with a KO percentage above 30%.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Shattered Jaw View Post
                    Horrendous post.

                    I'm sick and tired of boxingscene's mentality that if you lose you suddenly become some kind of bum with no future.

                    Also, 'No one prior to Ward had exposed Kessler. Not even Calzaghe.' What are you on about man? Calzaghe clearly won about 9 rounds of the Kessler fight and left the guy confused with his punch output and angle work... much the same as Ward did. This isn't counting the effect of Ward's DISGRACEFUL headbutting on Kessler. Only delusional bumboys would have called Kessler great before or after the Calzaghe fight. Get real.

                    By the way, Open question to all: Has anyone ever seen a fighter headbutt another fighter 4-5 times to open cuts and not been warned once? I have never seen that before... ever.
                    Add to that that Kessler (rightly) was afraid of being DQ'ed himself as the referee repeatedly between rounds cautioned him. Ward was never cautioned.

                    The most incompetent referee in recent memory was in the Dirrell-AA fight.
                    The most biased referee in recent memory was in the Ward-Kessler fight.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Shattered Jaw View Post
                      This. People like Allucard and Wazza just can't disguise their hate though. Be it because the fighter is white and/or to discredit Calzaghe.
                      I hate Calzaghe myself but ill tell it how it is, Before this tournament everyone was saying Kessler was the favorite (Even Dirrell and Froch said this) and now he loses once vs Ward who as many have pointed out was basically allowed to use his head as a third first. Ward's win is treated as like a great victory and the american people refuse to even talk about the headbutts. But if Froch now goes on and knocks Kessler out, People will say some crap like "Oh well Kessler was never good to begin with and just got destroyed by Ward". It's just the way people are but if Froch beats Kessler I think he deserves ALOT of credit because not only is the fight in Dennmark but it's also by far the biggest fight of Mikkel's career. He needs to win badly

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