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    #41
    Originally posted by -The Glove- View Post
    Realistically, Pacquaio, or any athlete, could very well be on steroids. There's not very much we can do but wait for a conclusive positive test or somebody reliable linking him to steroids. So far, we have neither, so he should get the benefit of doubt.

    I haven't seen the Jim Rome interview yet, but from what I hear, Roach kind of "threw Pacquiao under the bus." As a big Pacquiao fan, I must say this is very odd and su****ious. We had Ariza first declaring that Pacquiao had no idea what he takes. Then again, Ariza did say it took him pleading with Roach to talk to Pacquiao, to even have him take vitamins. Don't get me wrong, I highly doubt he's on anything, but I can see where the su****ion lies.

    If he was on steroids, though, how would everybody react? IMO, it would be a huge blow to boxing in the mainstream. I bet NSB will go wild if this was found out to be true. Some even will be elated, because "they were right" in their su****ions. As a boxing fan, would that be the right reaction though? I know I would be crushed. We've had other boxers testing positive, and were forgiven or didn't receive much backlash, like Mosley. With Pacquiao's popularity, mainstream appeal, and nice-guy persona, would he ever be forgiven? Plus this late in his career, steroids will cap off his legacy. In the end, boxing as a whole, not Pacquiao, will receive tremendous backlash from the mainstream, like baseball did. I haven't paid much attention to baseball since, and I know many casual fans would do the same.
    Incredibly disappointed at Team Pacquiao, to put it mildly. If the PED allegations are proven to be true. Ariza and Tom are putting their licenses on the line for the last 3 years, it would be ****** of them to use PEDs on Pacquiao at this stage of his career.
    Last edited by LeeVanCleef; 03-27-2010, 12:29 AM.

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      #42
      I don't really know how to react, Im a big pacman fan but you know if PACMAN is positive, I think all boxer maybe too.

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        #43
        Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
        Actually, you're wrong about that. There are NO state commissions that do blood testing for steroids. They only do urine tests after the fight.

        As for the blood tests that are taken ahead of the fight, those are simply done for Hepatitis B & C and HIV and are not even taken by the commission. The fighter goes to the lab of their own choosing and the results are sent to the commission for Hep and HIV only. The commission doesnt even have legal standing to call the lab and ask them to check the blood for steroids. Medical privacy laws prohibit that.
        Manny will have no problem with taking any test out there especially for steroids. The only issue that he has it for it not to be close to the fight. That's the only reason why the Mayweather fight didn't happen. It's not because he didn't want to take it, it's how many days before the fight is he willing to take the test.

        But to assume that he may be on steroids with no proof, again it's another what if he is, what if he isn't. Which do you believe?

        Until there is physical evidence that links him to steroids, then why should we "ASSUME" that he is.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Jo94403 View Post
          Manny will have no problem with taking any test out there especially for steroids. The only issue that he has it for it not to be close to the fight. That's the only reason why the Mayweather fight didn't happen. It's not because he didn't want to take it, it's how many days before the fight is he willing to take the test.

          But to assume that he may be on steroids with no proof, again it's another what if he is, what if he isn't. Which do you believe?

          Until there is physical evidence that links him to steroids, then why should we "ASSUME" that he is.
          I dont "assume" anything. But for you to basically swear he is clean is no less idiotic then for someone else to swear that he is dirty. The truth is that none of us know a damn thing for sure, since we do not have access to his medical records to prove anything either way. The only thing anyone outside of Team Pac has is their opinions....................

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            #45
            Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
            I dont "assume" anything. But for you to basically swear he is clean is no less idiotic then for someone else to swear that he is dirty. The truth is that none of us know a damn thing for sure, since we do not have access to his medical records to prove anything either way. The only thing anyone outside of Team Pac has is their opinions....................
            Yes, everybody has their own opinion. And my opinion is, he's innocent until proven otherwise.

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              #46
              Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
              My thing is, if I like you, I like you regardless.

              If Manny Pacquiao would come out and just say yes he did do steroids, I would still like him.

              But in the situation of the topic, since Manny has been denying everything, I don't think I could still root for him in the case of the topic.
              and thats di****able of you jjust like him. think of the harm hes potentially done to other boxers. not to mention his career, titles and belts are completely fabricated and won by cheating.

              he should be stripped, banned, and outcasted from the sport. plain and simple

              it figures you *******s would still stand behind a complete fraud. who has no honor.

              it only explains the numerous excuses you clowns come up with daily
              Last edited by Pacquiao'd; 03-27-2010, 12:16 AM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by LeeVanCleef View Post
                Incredibly disappointed at Team Pacquiao, to put it mildly. If the PED allegations are proven to be true. Ariza and Tom are putting their licenses on the line for the last 3 years, it would be ****** of them to do use PEDs on Pacquiao at this stage of his career.
                That's one of the main reasons I don't believe Pacquiao is on anything. He has a team of UCLA trained professionals perfecting his conditioning and nutrition. They still do work in the UCLA labs. There's no way UCLA would allow anything illegal to go on there.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by 4773Y350NM3 View Post
                  I don't really know how to react, Im a big pacman fan but you know if PACMAN is positive, I think all boxer maybe too.
                  wow you guy re ******. this is sad...seriously.

                  so if pac is positive. lets blame everyone else to lessen the blow on pac?

                  haha. you patards are ****ing ******. and i mean that from the bottom of my heart

                  like everyone thought. yall arent fans of the sport. yall only have manlove for pac.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by -The Glove- View Post
                    That's one of the main reasons I don't believe Pacquiao is on anything. He has a team of UCLA trained professionals perfecting his conditioning and nutrition. They still do work in the UCLA labs. There's no way UCLA would allow anything illegal to go on there.
                    This is why licensed nutritionists and trainers with PhDs > crackheads. By a mile .

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by yesir View Post
                      and thats di****able of you jjust like him. think of the harm hes potentially done to other boxers. not to mention his career, titles and belts are completely fabricated and won by cheating.

                      he should be stripped, banned, and outcasted from the sport. plain and simple

                      it figures you *******s would still stand behind a complete fraud. who has no honor.

                      it only explains the numerous excuses you clowns come up with daily
                      Your f**king hilarious. Your already judging Manny like he is guilty. Again, the topic is, WHAT IF?, it's not that HE IS.

                      There is no FACTS to the matter. It's all based on your opinion.

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