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    Jirov is/was obviously a great fighter!!!

    After seeing Toney in action last night again I have to say that he is possibly one of the slickest fighers to come around in a long time! He is extremely elusive and his counter-punching is like a mechanical piston right on the money from whatever angle he happens to be on. Top that off with a granite chin and you have a great fighter. saying that, I have to say that Jirov was obviously a greater fighter than some gave him credit for. He and Toney evenly went to war at close range with very similar punch stats when it was all over. If it hadn't been for the knockdown in last round, the decision could have gone to Jirov just due to his constant pressure thoughout the fight!

    Very impressed with Toney! The answer to how he can do against the bigger stronger heavyweight (Vitali) is getting interesting! I still think he is too small for Klitschko, but he will give him hell for a while at least!

    #2
    He'll beat Klitschko, as for you point about Jirov, the only reason why it was so close, was because Jirov was reckless.

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      #3
      I hope Jirov's next fight is televised, we will se if he can rise in heavyweight rankings he is pretty low right now, but I think he will claw his way back into the top 10 at some point.

      That ****** that his last fight was not televised in favor of Andre Ward. He is fighting 14th May against Troy Beets 12-5-1 at Coushatta Casino Resort in Los Angelos, California. Hopefully some network puts it on TV this time.
      Last edited by The Troll; 05-01-2005, 12:35 PM.

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        #4
        jirov is not a great heavyweight he is a very good/great cruiserweight.......come on MORMECK VS JIROV!!!!!!!! JIROV VS BRAITHWAITE

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          #5
          mormeck vs. jirov would be a great fight to see they both throw alot of punches and have a good work rate hopefully it can happen sometime soon it would be a good match up for the cruiserweight div.

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            #6
            If James Toney ever fights with Vitali or Wladimir, James Toney will be knocked out, and it will shock all of his fans. James Toney will get knocked out just like Roy Jones knock out, very scary. James Toney will never want to fight Vitali or Wladimir. He knows there is great chance he will get knocked out, and he does not want to be remembered that way.

            Also, James Toney will never fight Mike Tyson, despite the intrigue. James Toney knows he cannot take a true heavyweight punch. This is why he is ready to fight Chris Byrd only.

            So, I am hoping James Toney will let Jirov fight him.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Winter
              intrigue. James Toney knows he cannot take a true heavyweight punch. This is why he is ready to fight Chris Byrd only.
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              Based on what logic can James Toney not take a heavyweight punch. I challenge you to name on occasion where James "lights out" toney was seriously hurt in a fight. You wont find find one. James Toney is practically industuctable he can take anybodies punches until somebody proves me wrong. Never in his career has he been put on his ass, or been seriously staggered or out on his and most likely he never will be. The man is is Iron and Indestructable. Toney's chin is so underestimated I highly doubt that James will ever be Knocked out in entire pro career, he is to slick and to tough, his head is made of Iron he is like the terminator.

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                #8
                Originally posted by McKay
                Based on what logic can James Toney not take a heavyweight punch. I challenge you to name on occasion where James "lights out" toney was seriously hurt in a fight. You wont find find one. James Toney is practically industuctable he can take anybodies punches until somebody proves me wrong. Never in his career has he been put on his ass, or been seriously staggered or out on his and most likely he never will be. The man is is Iron and Indestructable. Toney's chin is so underestimated I highly doubt that James will ever be Knocked out in entire pro career, he is to slick and to tough, his head is made of Iron he is like the terminator.
                He still hasn't fought a heavyweight who can punch any where near with the amount of power the Klitschkos have.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
                  He'll beat Klitschko, as for you point about Jirov, the only reason why it was so close, was because Jirov was reckless.
                  I do not think that Jirov's recklessness had anything to do with it! John Ruiz decided to be a little more reckless than usual and what did it get him? And Ruiz is a legitamite heavy as far as size and strength is concerned. Being reckless against James Toney is not the way to go! Jirov was able to get away with it due his heart, relentless pressure and body punching skills. If it hadn't been for the knockdown in round 12, I had Jirov winning!

                  Klitschko I cannot see losing to Toney! Especially Vitali! Vitali has proven his chin by taking shots from Lewis and Sanders who is an extremely dangerous puncher. Toney is not nearly as powerful as Lewis or most heavy's for that matter so it would take a long night of accumulation to start getting to Vitali Klitschko and by that time I just cannot see Toney taking his power shots! I will admit that the fight will be entertaining and very interesting, but over time Toney will start to feel the power of a 6'7" Vitali! Don't forget, Vitali is no slouch, he has been fighting for a very long time and is an extremely accurate puncher. Even the very elusive Chris Byrd was unable to avoid Vitali's offense until Vitali couldn't fight anymore due to his shoulder! Let's not have any illusions about the Byrd fight like Roy Jones was having last night. Vitali retired due to injury, whether you like it or agree with it is completely irrelivant!! Vitali was winning the fight and would have won the fight! I don't think Vitali would have trouble finding Toney as Ruiz did, they are on completely different skill levels.

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                    #10
                    Too bad Vitali didn't think he was winning the Byrd fight.

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