[Breaking News] (ESPN) Arum Will Try to Get Pacman to Move on Testing

[MakeDamnSure]

The next few hours will make or break Pacquiao's legacy.

f he turns down randomized testing with another excuse, his legacy is finished and his titles should be stripped.

in your wildest dreams *****s...

[RodBarker]

No matter how anyone spins this, pacs actions, the lack of communication between roach, pac and arum, and the constant spinning of the situation hasnt helped anyone at all. Not to mention, how many pac fans have floyd signatures of him being a chicken, or a duck or this or that. Nearly half of the threads on here that are made are exclusively to trash mayweather in every conceivable way, from ***uality, to his resume to just about everything you can think of.

The difference in this situation is that this is actually a legitimate issue. The confusion from all sides as well as the misinformation campaign from both sides has turned this thing ugly.

But the idea that people cant wait to make manny look bad, there are always going to be a few of those here and there. But some pacquiao fans literally make it their life to trash mannys rivals, those people far outnumber any fans of mayweather on here, mind you very few of them even exist on here.

But i honestly wouldnt do a whole lot crying about "they just want to make manny look bad". Most manny fans have made it apart of their daily routine to trash mayweather, his father and his entire family, team etc.

Especially that moron Makedamnsure, whom you are quoting is guilty of the very things im talking about now. and dont pretend like people like him dont make up the majority of this place.

Thats the difference with us I get branded a hater because I think in this issue Pac is wrong , I have stood up for Pac countless times but when the bull**** started flowing and started he to duck Floyd and the tests , I thought *** him thats bull**** ...... now you show me one single Floyd hater that talks about Floyd and backs him up the way I do for Manny in this thread weeks ago , Im not a Manny hater I love him as a fighter but he is wrong and has been exposed for being wrong , just sign the fight with Floyd and fight a real fighter that can not only match you but beat you .

[USADA]

Thats the difference with us I get branded a hater because I think in this issue Pac is wrong , I have stood up for Pac countless times but when the bull**** started flowing and started he to duck Floyd and the tests , I thought *** him thats bull**** ...... now you show me one single Floyd hater that talks about Floyd and backs him up the way I do for Manny in this thread weeks ago , Im not a Manny hater I love him as a fighter but he is wrong and has been exposed for being wrong , just sign the fight with Floyd and fight a real fighter that can not only match you but beat you .

Pacquiao has run out of excuses.

He needs to man up and take the random blood test. Even his own Promoter realized he's not being honest about this fiasco.

[The Great Shark]

Pacquiao has run out of excuses.

He needs to man up and take the random blood test. Even his own Promoter realized he's not being honest about this fiasco.

Cosign. You know it's serious when even your own promoter has second thoughts about the future of this sport.

[Ray*]

Thats the difference with us I get branded a hater because I think in this issue Pac is wrong , I have stood up for Pac countless times but when the bull**** started flowing and started he to duck Floyd and the tests , I thought *** him thats bull**** ...... now you show me one single Floyd hater that talks about Floyd and backs him up the way I do for Manny in this thread weeks ago , Im not a Manny hater I love him as a fighter but he is wrong and has been exposed for being wrong , just sign the fight with Floyd and fight a real fighter that can not only match you but beat you .

**** Rod you were actually defending Pac and arguing for him in the Australian forum!!! So that guy you were arguing with said Pac IS on something and this was a while back???

[rommel357]

So Manny has stated that he wants to be tested 30 days before the fight, when did he ever said that 14 days wasn't an option. Obviously the video from 24/7 proved that Manny has no problem getting a blood test 14 days before the fight, but when did he ever said no to that. He did proposed 30 days, but that's about it. So please explain to me what part Manny is not being honest about .

Here is Pacquiao's statement:

"I am still willing to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. I never said the fight was off or I do not want to fight him. I will fight anyone at anytime and my record and past fights prove that. I have never and will never dodge anyone. These are my specifications for this fight regarding blood testing. I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the (press conference). I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room . I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime, anywhere, every day leading up to the fight.

"The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight. That does not make sense to me why anyone would do that. These accusations of me using any performance enhancing supplements are totally unwarranted and unjustified.

"To all of my fans I want to say thank you very much for all your support and understanding. I always give honor to God first and I would never cheat. I would never cheat God, I would never cheat myself, and I would never cheat my country and my fans.

"If Floyd Mayweather Jr. does not accept these terms [then] my promoter will find me another fight for March the 13. Again, I will fight anyone at any time. I would always like to be known for my honor and my integrity. I will always be known for my courage and my willingness to face any man at anytime in my career. If Floyd Mayweather Jr. truly ever wanted to fight me and he is not really scared, he would accept these terms I am willing to give him as they are above and beyond what the commission demands.

"I should not have to prove myself as I have always done what the commission has asked me to do, and I have never, ever swayed from that. Never has there been a time where anything I have ever done has been in question. I stand behind my honor and my integrity. I stand below God and my country. I stand with my fans and I hope Floyd is not really a coward and will fight me, and give the fans what they want to see. I am not afraid to fight Floyd, anywhere, any time."

[Ray*]

Thats the difference with us I get branded a hater because I think in this issue Pac is wrong , I have stood up for Pac countless times but when the bull**** started flowing and started he to duck Floyd and the tests , I thought *** him thats bull**** ...... now you show me one single Floyd hater that talks about Floyd and backs him up the way I do for Manny in this thread weeks ago , Im not a Manny hater I love him as a fighter but he is wrong and has been exposed for being wrong , just sign the fight with Floyd and fight a real fighter that can not only match you but beat you .

Rod i got this post from your aussie website: And this guy seem to be on to something...


I don't know of any small fighter who maintains a ripped look with so much weight gain. Forget what his post weigh-in weight is...those pics show Pac at 130 and 142. So no matter how much he rehydrates after the weigh in or what his fight night weight is...fact is he is just as ripped at two weights 12 pounds apart. If this is so normal and has a logical explanation, I'd like to see another small fighter who goes up three weight divisions ( on the scales) and keeps the exact same physique. And if 142 is such a healthy weight for Pac where he doesn't have to dry out, why did he settle at 130 and lower...all the way until 2008? Money fights? Huh. They would have been there at 140-147. Not only is Pac maintaining a peak physical appearance, he is also carrying his power from 130 to 145. He was the stronger guy against Hatton. Ko'd arguably the strongest jnr welter with one punch. Freaky. Pac is just a gym rat who stays in shape between fights? Umm, no. Actually he is the opposite. Parties like a rock star and drinks. If he isn't partying he is on some political trail in the PI. How many times has coach Roach had to go find him and get him in to camp? If he isn't using anything illegal, he is a genetic freak.

[The Great Shark]

So Manny has stated that he wants to be tested 30 days before the fight, when did he ever said that 14 days wasn't an option. Obviously the video from 24/7 proved that Manny has no problem getting a blood test 14 days before the fight, but when did he ever said no to that. He did proposed 30 days, but that's about it. So please explain to me what part Manny is not being honest about .

They said that he didn't want anything less than thirty days.

[RodBarker]

**** Rod you were actually defending Pac and arguing for him in the Australian forum!!! So that guy you were arguing with said Pac IS on something and this was a while back???

Yes mate when it first started that guy said straight up Manny is on roids , it was before snr made a comment I think or about the same time , but yes I stood up for Manny all the way until just recently when it was painfully obvious he was blatantly ducking the test and ducking Floyd , the more the Pac Fanboys tried tp rubbish Floyd to pull their idol out of the **** pile the more I turned on Manny because you and I both know Manny is wrong in this .

[El Jesus]

So Manny has stated that he wants to be tested 30 days before the fight, when did he ever said that 14 days wasn't an option. Obviously the video from 24/7 proved that Manny has no problem getting a blood test 14 days before the fight, but when did he ever said no to that. He did proposed 30 days, but that's about it. So please explain to me what part Manny is not being honest about .

They threw out 30 days and said that was their final offer, manny or not, that was top ranks final offer, top rank represents manny. we get different answers from roach, manny and arum. all of whom represent him. Like i said, mannys team went about this all wrong. language barriers, multiple answers, this whole thing wont be solved until he agrees to random testing, nobody is being tested the day of the damn fight.