Vitali Klitschko: "I Will Knock David Haye Out"

[edgarg]

No they were not offering him any money. That's why he pulled out of the Vitali fight. He made far more against Valuev than he was being offered to fight Vitali.

Who says they were not offering him any money. Where did you read that??

The last people in the world to meanly treat an opponent, would be the Klitschko Brothers, who are as renowned for their sportsmanship and charity works as they are for boxing.

The contract with WK was accepted and Haye pulled out citing a pulled muscle, when coincidentally at the exact same time, Setanta, from whom Haye was to get his purse [with which he was perfectly satisfied ] went bankrupt. I didn't see any report that negotiations were re-opened with W Klitschko, to amend the purse, as we'd normally expect. Haye pulled out as quickly as he could, as if saying to himself......"whew, what a narrow escape".

The second fight was either a return in case Haye beat WK, which is often quite standard in contracts, or a new fight with VK who was the most money-worthy opponent for a victorious Haye.

When he pulled out of the fight with VK, Klitschko said that his contract with Haye was essentially the same as Haye's contract with WK which, until Setanta went machulla, was perfectly acceptable to Haye.

Are you calling K a liar??????............hmmm!

[edgarg]

Calvin brock was the best fighter Wlad has faced in his entire title reign, and Brock put up the toughest fight. Was undeafeted as well. I don't think Haye is better than he was, U could make an argument for the rest of his victims put people over look Brock because he is just a name on the list. Anyway don't get your panties in a bunch cause he beat Valuev, a guy Ruiz beat twice.

I quite agree with you. I've always thought that Brock was more difficult for WK than any other fighter.

I recall that in their fight, WK was having great difficulty in even catching Brock with his straight left, which for WK is normally dead on, and bullet like. The first 4 rds were very scrappy, and WK really didn;t get into his rhythm until about rd 5.

[edgarg]

left hand mate
his right hand was broke in round 2,hence why he wasnt as exciting and didnt throw as many punches as he usually does

Yet........in rd 12 the punch that staggered Valuev was a right hand...........I wonder how legit Haye's claim of injury actually is.

Assuming he's not just embroidering [which we know he does all the time] he couldn't possibly have hit Valuev like that with a broken hand. NO WAY!

[edgarg]

We seem to have a lot of mind readers on this forum. With your mind reading skills, why aren't you making millions of dollars predicting the future for money, instead of wasting your time posting on forums for free?

Well....

I have, except it was from real estate........

[tommy boo boxer]

Haye is being underrated, Haye will be too slick and elusive for Vitali to land any potential KO punches, Haye is not an unmotivated sam peter or an overweight Arreola, peter and arreola were sitting ducks, Haye isn't a sitting duck, he moves quick on his feet and has cat-like reflexes.

Vitali won't be able to KO Haye,

Haye is over-rated.. he knows himself he hasn't got a chin, if valuev was able to give David a puffy eye.. imagine him trying to get at Vitali... who has a more effective jab... Vit****s in 6 rounds

[Dave Rado]

Who says they were not offering him any money. Where did you read that??

It was all over the press at the time, and Boente didn't deny it. Google away if you don't believe me. The deal was that Vitali would get 100% of the gate, 100% of the sponsorship revenue, 100% of the German and worldwide TV revenue, with the exception of the UK TV revenue; and a large but undisclosed percentage of the UK PPV revenue. Haye would get an undisclosed percentage of the UK PPV revenue and that's it.

Whereas against Valuev Haye got 100% of the UK PPV revenue plus a small percentage of the revenue from all the other sources.

The last people in the world to meanly treat an opponent, would be the Klitschko Brothers

Except in the case of Haye, who they wanted to humiliate. They made that very clear in interviews at the time. There were two reasons why they wanted to humiliate him: 1) they considered him to be jumping the queue, which he was, and wanted to prove to him that he didn't have the negotiating clout that he thought he had, and 2) they were pissed off with the way he had disrespected them, with the t-shirt etc. and wanted to make him pay in the negotiations.

The contract with WK was accepted and Haye pulled out citing a pulled muscle, when coincidentally at the exact same time, Setanta, from whom Haye was to get his purse [with which he was perfectly satisfied ] went bankrupt.

No, Setanta went bankrupt more than a month after Haye got injured. And two doctors stated at the time that he was injured. These conspiracy theories are as silly and groundless as the conspiracy theories about Pavlik. When a fight is for a title, you can't just make up an injury - if you do, the sanctioning body can fine you millions and suspend you from boxing.

I didn't see any report that negotiations were re-opened with W Klitschko, to amend the purse, as we'd normally expect.

Wlad cancelled the fight when Haye got injured because he didn't want to postpone the date - quite understandably. Haye did ask for a postponement, though. And Wlad took a fight at very short notice with a fighter who was a lot more highly ranked than Haye, and who was a southpaw, which was an admirable thing for him to do. And as a result, Wlad won the Ring belt. which is by far the most meaningful belt in boxing; so that worked out well for Wlad in the end.

When he pulled out of the fight with VK, Klitschko said that his contract with Haye was essentially the same as Haye's contract with WK which, until Setanta went machulla, was perfectly acceptable to Haye.

Are you calling K a liar??????............hmmm!

You forget that Setanta had gone bankrupt by then so how could it possibly be the same??? There were two important differences: 1) Instead of getting a percentage of a guaranteed payment from Setanta, Haye would have got a percentage of a non-guaranteed, PPV fee from Sky; and 2) Valuev offered Haye a much better deal, whereas Valuev wasn't in the frame in the previous negotiations.

[Freddy Krueger]

Vilati will indeed KO david haye, watch haye backed out and fight Tua or that Oreo guy

LOL, Tua would kill Haye. Why did you bring Tua up as if that should be some kind of walk in the park for Haye?

[Dave Rado]

Yet........in rd 12 the punch that staggered Valuev was a right hand.

No, it was a left.

[beez721]

No, it was a left.

but he had no problem throwing the right

[Dave Rado]

but he had no problem throwing the right

He threw very few hard rights, almost all of his hard punches were lefts, which is the opposite of what he normally does.