Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder ?never thought about retiring? after losing streak

[PBR Streetgang]

Not quite sure of the purpose of this piece: Lewis did nothing more than report off an interview Wilder did on a podcast - yet he didn’t really include many quotes from the interview and basically just wrote snide comments about Wilder. What was the point of this other than to provide a clickbait jumping-off point for the ignorant, racist, mouth-breathing anti-Wilder haters who - sadly -seem to be in great numbers on the website? Here’s an idea, Boxing Scene: Why not request and conduct your own interview with Wilder instead of taking this extremely lazy route?

That's all it was. Wilder elicits some passions and passions elicit posts and that's important for these sites.

[Willow The Wisp]

This is not about Joshua. But I see. Wilder is still begging for that pay day?

Why didn't he take it when offered?

Because it was never offered. Don't believe everything you read. The hardest hitter of the era doesn't turn down giant money to face the weakest chin. Use your head.

[daggum]

Because it was never offered. Don't believe everything you read. The hardest hitter of the era doesn't turn down giant money to face the weakest chin. Use your head.

Wilder and everyone on his team admitted it was real. You have resorted to outright lying since your position was so terrible. The only defense now is lies. Joshua admitted the wilder offer wasn't real and wilder refused to send the contract when his bluff was called. wilder admitted Joshua's offer was real and he turned it down for x y and z. See the difference? See how they are actually connected? 1 guy never wanting to fight..his name wilder

[davefromvancouv]

Because it was never offered. Don't believe everything you read. The hardest hitter of the era doesn't turn down giant money to face the weakest chin. Use your head.

Exactly. Deontay Wilder was avoided at his best and fake narratives were created to fool dumb fans (and encourage the deceptive ones).

[JakeTheBoxer]

Dude lost every round to Parker and got put to sleep by old Zhang.

He is really only low level gatekeeper on world level.

[daggum]

Exactly. Deontay Wilder was avoided at his best and fake narratives were created to fool dumb fans (and encourage the deceptive ones).

You were the one fooled if you seriously believe that? Don't know how in light of all the evidence and wilder literally admitting he turned down Joshua and more money for loyalty purposes. He also turned down Whyte and a career high payday.

Why do you think his resume was crap? Really everyone was avoiding him? Not likely and when you look into it not true. He was the one manipulating the media telling lies about being avoided but the truth was they matched him soft on purpose. Just look into how breazele became mandatory instead of Whyte. They setup easy fights for him.

When a guy only fights opponents from the same promotional company that should be a red flag. They wanted complete control of his fights and opponents and look what happened when he fought guys from other promotional outfits? Loss loss loss which proves they did the right thing matching him soft, disgraceful and disrespectful as it was.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Deontay Wilder has been semi-retired for many years in my opinion 'It all starts with a fighters lifestyle, once they start losing their consistency in training and pursuing the sport more primarily as just a business opportunity. Once those attitudes and lifestyle habits start to increase in intensity, that is when a fighter becomes semi retired'.

I sometimes watch documentaries or interviews about so called legendary 'Bare knuckle, street fighters. And what becomes very apparent is that most of those fighters, have a absolute passion for competition and fighting. A lot of those fighters, never really retire in the sense? That they lose their determination to compete or train'.

Note: But I see many professional boxers who 'They have this new school attitude, which is seen in many modern day fighters. It's like they are more civilized and tamed than professional boxers from past eras. That is the best way I can describe it. And I am not entirely criticising fighters for having such an attitude, because the game is brutal. The passage of time and history has revealed to the world, that no matter what the safety officials do to make the sport safer for the athletes. There are always going to consequences every single year, which fighters have to deal with. Both during their active careers, and during retirement for competing in such a difficult and brutal sport'.

Deontay Wilder may not have thought about retiring 'But if he checks himself, and analyses his own conduct in the game. He is most likely going to see where over the years, he has went out of his way to alter is work ethic in the sport'.

I have listed Deontay Wilder as a potential candidate for Anthony Joshua's comeback fight 'Along with other fighters such as Fabio Wardley, Efe Ajagba and Martin Bakole. But if I am to be really honesty? It would not be very pleasant to see Deontay Wilder get smashed up again. Because if he fights Joshua next, that is what I believe will happen'.

Ideally I would be content if Wilder could get a few wins back on his resume 'Then compete in another mega fight against Anthony Joshua, or potentially against Andy Ruiz Junior. Those are the two biggest fights for Wilder at this stage in his career, but if he jumps straight back into those level of fights? I think he will definitively be smashed up by Anthony Joshua'.

The reality is? Skill for skill there has never been a distinct decrease in Anthony Joshua's game 'He has ether won or lost fights legitimately to the better fighters on fight night. Joshua in all of his loses has still shown that he was a solid fighter, even in his last fight vs Daniel Dubois. If Joshua would have just stayed more composed and not waded into Dubois after committing a unforced error? The trajectory of that fight was clearly moving back towards him. And that was Joshua at his absolute worst from a technical perspective'.

Deontay Wilder in comparison 'In his last two fights, he has not appeared aggressive and I will go as far as saying? That Wilder's power looks to have disappeared. There were no flashes of elite level power vs both Joseph Parker or Zhilei Zhang'.

Anthony Joshua skill for skill is a superior boxer, he is a super heavyweight 'And I think on current form he has more punching power than Wilder. Deontay Wilder needs to regain some form back before fighting even this version of Joshua, who is also attempting to rediscover more form after suffering a traumatic loss'.

To conclude: Deontay Wilder's work ethic has never been terrible 'But I don't think he has the level of work ethic like Anthony Joshua. What exactly has Wilder been doing since his last lost, training? I doubt it. Fitness accumulates, and so does game'.

I also think Wilder might as well work with Jay Deas again as one of his main boxing coaches 'Deas clearly admired Wilder, he was not only a coach. He seemed like a hardcore supporter of Wilder. That passion has always been very apparent, and I think it has had a positive effect on Wilder. Malik Scott does also seem like a good coach, but the fact of the matter is? Scott did not build Deontay Wilder up from base level, Jay Deas was one of the boxing coaches who made that important contribution in his career',

So yes, Deontay Wilder's comeback fight is a domestic level fight 'And one he should win quite easily. But I am more interested to see Wilder's team around him, and how he works along with them at this stage of his career' etc.

[davefromvancouv]

You were the one fooled if you seriously believe that? Don't know how in light of all the evidence and wilder literally admitting he turned down Joshua and more money for loyalty purposes. He also turned down Whyte and a career high payday.

Why do you think his resume was crap? Really everyone was avoiding him? Not likely and when you look into it not true. He was the one manipulating the media telling lies about being avoided but the truth was they matched him soft on purpose. Just look into how breazele became mandatory instead of Whyte. They setup easy fights for him.

When a guy only fights opponents from the same promotional company that should be a red flag. They wanted complete control of his fights and opponents and look what happened when he fought guys from other promotional outfits? Loss loss loss which proves they did the right thing matching him soft, disgraceful and disrespectful as it was.

The evidence shows he was avoided at his best with simple mind tricks to fool casual fans. For example, he would be given lowball offers, or offers AFTER he was locked into another fight, then the narrative would be twisted to pretend that these offers were legitimate.

The $50 million dollar offer to Joshua which cut Eddie Hearn out of the loop, twisted to make it seem like it was not legitimate.

Flat fees instead of percentages so that the bulk of the money would go to Eddie Hearn and Joshua, and he would be locked into a bad deal. Much like how Luis Ortiz was locked out of a title shot by Joshua in favor of Klitschko and then Takam.

Hard to explain to people who can't see the simple mind tricks...

An easy playground for people who love to fool people with fake narratives.