All These AI Asterisks Are A Pathetic Joke. Fix This Sh it. WTF

[pretty boy_]

Somebody start a gofund me for BoxingUpdates so they can buy a new keyboard.

Lmao..we gonna have to get him one of these for the Andre the Giant sausage fingers he sportin'


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[daggum]

I considered myself a hardcore atheist, before coming back to faith. For a long time, however, I found myself trying to confirm my beliefs through various means. (A very common thing among atheists: always trying to support their argument, to themselves or to others.) Late one night, a few years ago, I found myself researching the Shroud of Turin. Don’t know why. As I delved into the topic, I was intent on debunking it to confirm my beliefs. I could find nothing to reconcile my thought that the Holy Shroud must be a forgery, as many atheists would claim. I gave up the search in the wee-hours, and chalked up the mystery to one of those unexplained phenomena that, although unresolved, must have a non-supernatural explanation. Sometime thereafter, I had a life-altering experience that inspired me to reach out to God. An atheist would say that this is typical, but only the person who goes through it truly knows. No one can prove the existence or non-existence of God. Even the great apologists can’t convince a dyed-in-the-wool atheist by their arguments alone. It takes something that, I now believe, doesn’t come solely from man.

If you’re interested, here are some sources you might want to explore: Bart Ehrman, PHD, a biblical scholar and former Evangelical, has written many books on Christianity. I read two — Jesus, Interrupted and How Jesus Became God. These were fascinating books; and although written through an atheist/agnostic perspective, they have value for believers as well. C.S. Lewis, the great scholar and Christian apologist, was a converted atheist. Mere Christianity is considered a must-read. I also read his Surprised by Joy, which is a partial biography and details his conversion. And although it’s debatable whether Leo Tolstoy actually accepted Christ as his savior, or merely admired the beatitudes, his religious experience is worthwhile exploring. Tolstoy, one of history’s greatest writers, was suicidal for a full year, beginning at about age 50. He had been an atheist, killed in war (murdered, in his own words) and slept with countless women. He was also a wealthy count. Yet, it took the inspiration of Christ to bring him back to life.

One can find a great number of sources that would support their belief or disbelief in God and/or Christ. There have been geniuses on both sides of the argument. I know better than to insist. I know what it was like to be an atheist; my words would fall on deaf ears. One can only point. Everyone has to take their own path. My best to you.

Shroud of turin was easily debunked so not sure why you had such trouble with that? I mean it appeared 1300 years after jesus so that should be a red flag. Not to mention carbon dating, fabric used, design used are all consistent with 14 century which is when it was found/made.

Also this ignores the question of even if it was from the time of Jesus that proves nothing. It certainly doesn't prove God is real orJesus was real. All it would prove is someone made a shroud with a guy on it and that somehow equals proof of god? Giant leap there. Also Chain of custody? All these artifacts are pretty clearly fan fiction made after the fact.

I dont really believe your I was an atheist story. It's just something religious people often say to try and make their case stronger when they don't have one based on facts so they rely on their personal experience. You don't have to debunk anything. Religious people have to prove its real and they can't. On the other hand many things in the bible can and have been debunked which should make you question its legitimacy.

Like others said the Jesus story was already out there long before Jesus so it's very convenient that Jesus came along and the same thing that happened to other gods or in other stories happened to him? They just didn't have much of an imagination and aped off other legends and myths of the time. same way joseph Smith did it. No one would seriously say mormonism is a real thing. If someone found some gold plates in 1000 years they would say look it's the gold plates josepth smith was right! Really now?

[QueensburyRules]

i guess the site is ran by communists

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[ShoulderRoll]

daggum is an atheist? That explains a lot.

[STREET CLEANER]

I don’t like this place as much as I used to, but at least the articles have appreciably improved. Before, they would take a single interview and chop it up into several “interviews.” It was pathetic in another sense.

The posting pieces have improved greatly but the site didn't have to change as much as it did. That could had been added and the other stuff adjusted. To ban a bulk of the subscribers and restrict the postings didn't do this site any favors.

[Toffee]

You would think that they would have a product that people want and this is a product not a privilege. Too bad that the site went down hill so quick, used to be a fun place to interact and read comments.

Used to be a site I came on and posted most days. I probably scan it weekly now.

It went downhill very, very quickly.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Shroud of turin was easily debunked so not sure why you had such trouble with that? I mean it appeared 1300 years after jesus so that should be a red flag. Not to mention carbon dating, fabric used, design used are all consistent with 14 century which is when it was found/made.

Also this ignores the question of even if it was from the time of Jesus that proves nothing. It certainly doesn't prove God is real orJesus was real. All it would prove is someone made a shroud with a guy on it and that somehow equals proof of god? Giant leap there. Also Chain of custody? All these artifacts are pretty clearly fan fiction made after the fact.

I dont really believe your I was an atheist story. It's just something religious people often say to try and make their case stronger when they don't have one based on facts so they rely on their personal experience. You don't have to debunk anything. Religious people have to prove its real and they can't. On the other hand many things in the bible can and have been debunked which should make you question its legitimacy.

Like others said the Jesus story was already out there long before Jesus so it's very convenient that Jesus came along and the same thing that happened to other gods or in other stories happened to him? They just didn't have much of an imagination and aped off other legends and myths of the time. same way joseph Smith did it. No one would seriously say mormonism is a real thing. If someone found some gold plates in 1000 years they would say look it's the gold plates josepth smith was right! Really now?

That’s not true. If it were so easily debunked as you say, I wouldn’t have spent so long agonizing over its authenticity or lack thereof. The Shroud has obviously been accused of being a fake for a long time, yet there is evidence to the contrary that has fully satisfied my formerly skeptical self. But that’s right, you don’t believe what I say about being a reformed atheist; so there’s no point in continuing this discussion with you, as there is clearly no basis for mutual respect on the matter. I’m not here to prove anything. Believe as you wish.

[dan_cov]

The shroud of Turin wasn't just debunked via carbon dating, paint traces being found and such, the subject is anatomically inaccurate and elongated which was very typical of gothic artwork from that period. Its arms and fingers/hands are far too long, the forehead is far too small.
If the cloth was dr4p3d upon an actual face then the facial image would be distorted laterally when flattened out.

I watched a documentary where they used high tech computer equipment and such and also known methods of that time and they recreated it iirc with all the inconsistencies using a very similar method to a dark room.

I live in a Christian country and respect Christian values, I want to believe but the more I've looked into it or any more modern religion the more it becomes abundantly clear that all of it - Their birth dates, death dates, often their names, their miracles, stories etc are all taken from other religions or ancient civilisations that came thousands of years prior. The only things that really changed is we went from them having super advanced technology (Hindus, Egyptians, Sumerians) we still can not comprehend to this day (more evidence of a God or extra terrestrial beings than any more modern religion has ever offered) and the claim of them having tons of Gods to now a quabble of just one. Even that would make a lot more sense logically than one all knowing, all seeing God unless it was adapted as a mean of control and power.

[billeau2]

Can’t even write something as innocuous as the word ma gazine. Apparently, the first four letters go against this site’s political inclinations.

LOL M a g a The site hired Chinese Government censors.

[billeau2]

First time I heard that sh it bro. Many religious people become atheists and, although it's much rarer, some atheists become religious. Much more likely that once you study the history of religions you can't really deny that religions are all man-made and often borrow stories from each other. Whether gods exist or not is something no one has ever proven or disproven. But it's because you can't disprove that the ruler of the universe is a giant crocodile named Jack.... In other words, anyone can invent these type of religious stories and they can't really be disproven, and of course they're never proven either.

have you considered the alternative? Probably not judging from your love of Daggum. Maybe the Most High has many forms, that manifest to many different cultures in different ways. Same with Ghosts. Even Buddhists, whom are Agnostic and historically su****ious of all meta physical constructions, allow for the existence of spirits, deities, etc. By the way Krishna comes from the age of Indian Religion (Brahmanism) that is similar to other Monotheistic traditions: Krishna being the avatar for Vishnu, who is one of three in a holy Trinity (sound familiar?) Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. Krishna came to prominance in the bhagavigita, that is how he was "Created" as you put it.