Is Turki Alalshikh getting a return from his investment in boxing?

[ELPacman]

The Saudi involvement was never about money. If you don't understand that, I'm not sure what to tell you. For what they were actually after, it's absolutely paid dividends already.

Yeah, this is what I always thought. There is no way they're making a return. The amount of piracy for PPVs now is crazy and if fights typically don't do that well, even with less paid guys on it, there is no way cards that have tons of big name fighters are able to make back the money to pay all the fighters.

What Saudi cares about and Turki has implied it in numerous interviews is bringing attention and eyes to Saudi. They want folks traveling there. They want tourism. All that is greater than putting on a boxing event can ever do for their country. He also mentions he wants to make it the new mecca for boxing, but again, even if that becomes the case, I don't think they're going to make back what they're putting out. It's always been about letting people know, they're safe and can have a good time going over to Saudi Arabia for vacation/traveling. They want people to see the country in a new light.

I would too. They chopped up that US/Saudi journalist dude who flew over to apply for a marriage license for his wife because he was criticizing the prince in his journalism. Dude literally went over just to get the license and never left the consulate building alive.

So as long as you don't talk no chit about the prince, you'll remain intact in your travels.

[garfios]

Understood that it's Saudi oil money, but it's still considered investment like spending billions of riyals in infrastructure for pilgrims and tourists. (In the olden days that's their main source of income..)

His fight cards are huge and are supposed to massively eclipse any PPV card in America. Yet we never see Rafael, Coppinger, etc. come up with any PPV number from Turki's fights, but are quick to provide fake numbers when it comes to PBC obviously pulled out from their ass.

Do you really care?

[tomhawq]

Is Turki Alalshikh getting a return from his investment in boxing?

No, he's not getting any return from his "investment" other than showcasing his country in a new light. That's a given. It's not even new, it's been an age-old quest since time immemorial. No need to repeat it. You can find it in Sandra Mackey's book "The Saudis" on Amazon.

But still, some people are just wondering what the numbers are. Top Rank is promoting his fights in the US as they're the recipient of ppv buys on the US feeds, thus numbers had to exist, whatever they are. If it's mere 10K or something, fine, let us now. If everyone assumes they're all pirated, then why assume others like more expensive fights on PBC are not?

[brettWall]

No, he's not getting any return from his "investment" other than showcasing his country in a new light. That's a given. It's not even new, it's been an age-old effort since time immemorial. No need to repeat it. You can find it in Sandra Mackey's book The Saudis on Amazon.

But still, some people are just wondering what the numbers are. Top Rank is promoting his fights in the US as they're the recipient of the US feeds, thus numbers had to exist, whatever they are. If it's mere 10K or something, fine, let us now. If everyone assumes they're all pirated, then why assume others are not?

Most fans would rather not have any concerns about these anomalous figures like few of us do. They'd rather dwell on fantasy pretending cable tvs are still prevalent, thus PPVs are still very much saleable. They're fond of fantasies even though non of them buy PPVs.

Just years ago, $1 million purse is a huge deal. Some even complain why uncle Al Haymon is paying too much for his fighters. Anything higher is in fraction of that figure. Those numbers are all gone now and replaced by fake exaggerated numbers. Well, it all started when DAZN repped by Hearn started offering 10x as much. That was because it's a startup in boxing, thus willing to spend a billion $$$ like all startups do. Not to be outdone, PBC fans and fake writers started inflating figures. Spinoza overpaid Wilder just to catch up with the figures. Oh man, it almost bankrupted Showtime and Wilder's fights were eventually passed on to Fox Sports. "Ortiz vs Wilder 2 PPV didn't make sense to us," Spinoza finally declared. It's comical.

[tomhawq]

Most fans would rather not have any concerns about these anomalous figures like few of us do. They'd rather dwell on fantasy pretending cable tvs are still prevalent, thus PPVs are still very much saleable. They're fond of fantasies even though non of them buy PPVs.

Just years ago, $1 million purse is a huge deal. Some even complain why uncle Al Haymon is paying too much for his fighters. Anything higher is in fraction of that figure. Those numbers are all gone now and replaced by fake exaggerated numbers. Well, it all started when DAZN repped by Hearn started offering 10x as much. That was because it's a startup in boxing, thus willing to spend a billion $$$ like all startups do. Not to be outdone, PBC fans and fake writers started inflating figures. Spinoza overpaid Wilder just to catch up with the figures. Oh man, it almost bankrupted Showtime and Wilder's fights were eventually passed on to Fox Sports. "Ortiz vs Wilder 2 PPV didn't make sense to us," Spinoza finally declared. It's comical.

True. Last time I checked, Wilder was on ESNews complaining about why PBC hasn't paid him for his fight with Helenius. And this was guy who waxed poetic about his loyalty to Showtime and PBC.

[MulaKO]

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[Superbee]

We get what we want.... Premium fights that matter 3-4 times a year ... Who"s here to complain ? ...

US and UK just have to deepen their pockets, but let's all agree that something like the Feb 22 Card would never happen in the free World...

So Thank You Turki ...

[QueensburyRules]

True. Last time I checked, Wilder was on ESNews complaining about why PBC hasn't paid him for his fight with Helenius. And this was guy who waxed poetic about his loyalty to Showtime and PBC.

- - Deyonce wings was melted wax. That $200 mil 3 fight deal Eddie offered him during AJ American debut is looking better than ever uncashed in Eddie's pocket...

[pollywog]

Dunno bout the Desert Turki, but Mohammad Bone Sawman is reaping rewards from sportswashing the cultural capital generated.

Which is all it's meant to do.

With over 750 billion of Saudi Wealth Fund to play with, Turki can pretend he's the most excellent of promoters while pissing away billions on his fantasy fights.

And in many ways he probably is, given the stacked cards and fights that wouldnt have been staged otherwise.

[brettWall]

True. Last time I checked, Wilder was on ESNews complaining about why PBC hasn't paid him for his fight with Helenius. And this was guy who waxed poetic about his loyalty to Showtime and PBC.

Yeah, I've seen several of those Youtube videos of Wilder complaining he hasn't been paid. Was so strange to watch them. It's so opposite to the usual, "Thank you Al Haymon!"